NEED A 24" or larger vinyl cutter

[jasonatf]

I got 1600.00 to spend. must be fairly new.

thanks
jason

[OldPaint]

ebay TYPE IN ROLAND PLOTTER....new cm-24, $1495.00

[PCD]

u could get a new lynx for around that price from signwarehouse, some love them but some report tracking problems. u may be able to get the better panther from same place for just a few hundred more. either 1 w/ a warrenty.

[Barry]

Personally I would save up another few hundred dollars and either get a Summa or Graphtec plotter. Both track much better and are much faster than the Lynx.

[rsantos97]

You can get the Summacut D60 with stand for $1795 and shipping was only $20.

This is the guys info:
Dan Ramm
Product Specialist
Beacon Graphics Systems
1-800-762-9205 ext 217

[jasonatf]

still looking.:signs101:

[Outlaw Graphics]

Personally I would save up another few hundred dollars and either get a Summa or Graphtec plotter. Both track much better and are much faster than the Lynx.
couldnt have said it better myself:cool:

[OldPaint]

EEEEEEEEEE BAY!!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46723&item=3842951622&rd=1

[idsign]

Roland CAMM 1 not worth the $187 reserve. Owned one - it died. Repair costs double what one working was worth (1996)

I agree with everyone who sez...graphtec or summa - in that order.

www.sskonline.com designtech 24" - graphtec overlabel, $1395.00 includes stand.
http://www.sskonline.com/cutters2.asp (only 16 ips though)

barry

[Fred Weiss]

I don't really understand why you keep bumping up multiple threads that you're still looking. If no one has responded, it's because no one has what you're looking for.

Sign Supply of Kentucky is a reliable supplier that has offerings that meet your criteria. Have you called some of the sign supply houses in your immediate area? I would imagine it would be hard to find one that doesn't have a plotter for under $1600. For what you want, you are much better off to buy from a source that can provide some basic support and has a reputation to protect. You may even get a warranty in the bargain.

[OldPaint]

i have had 3 roland camm-1, PNC-1000, and i now own 2 PNC-1100, the pnc-1000 i bought in 93, sold it this spring for $600 and the other 2 PNC-1100 i have work flawlessly. 1st one i bought for $1600, the 2 1100's i have $2000 in them.....and i been cuttin vinly since 93 so for 10 yrs, that old pnc-1000 served me well...as will these pnc-1100. when i get rich.....ill buy a roland.

[jasonatf]

The only reason I put another thread is because my ad was getting old, and I thought people mit think I already found something. So sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry for posting another thread.

[jasonatf]

ooooooooooo ya and thanks everbody for you response. hope fred dosnt get mad for multiple threads again. probably get kicked now.


thanks again
jason

[jasonatf]

:Oops:

[Fred Weiss]

No .... kicking members off takes a bit more than that.

You still didn't answer my other questions.

[jasonatf]

accually I found to used plotters, both going for $800.00, still trying to figure out what one I want. ones a roland cx-24 camm 1, and the other is a graphtec ce2000-60.

[Ocean Designs]

if you are still looking I have a Panther 30" pro II. It maybe more then you want or even wish to spend. But none the less it is a hell of a machine for some serious business. Drop a line if you have an intrest.
Vince
vince@oceandesignsinc.com

[jasonatf]

I mit be intrested if its a good price.

[Ocean Designs]

Jason I sent you an email the other morning I will paste it here for you. Sorry if you didn't get it. Perhaps it wasn't you who I replied to. Here is the actual reply. I hope it helps you

Vince

Hello Steve,
The 30" panther is less then a year old. It is last years model. I loved it so much That I purchased the new model when it came out. Trust me this machine was able to pay for itself at least 3 times before I got my new one. I have all the original packaging so it will be easy to ship and very cost effective. Package Includes: Ultra Pro Panther 30 inch vinyl cutter with stand, LXi Expert Master Plus software, EstiMate Job Quoting Software, 4 Professional ClipArt CDs, "Basic Vinyl Application" video.
I will even include Flexi Sign Pro, and a DVD with over 4GB of vector art, which is what I have used to make most of my money. For this package you are looking at $2500. Like I said it may be too much money and or too much of a machine for you. However, keep in mind because of this very machine I now own a second Panther and a new Roland SC540EX. It is an investment but your payout will be well rewarded.

Vince Nelson
oceandesiginsinc.com

[Ocean Designs]

Jason,



Sorry it was an error I had assumed that you were the one who first replied to me. But as I look over it, well you are not Steve, LOL :) However, my offer still stands as posted above.

Vince

[jasonatf]

Ya thats alot more then what I want to spend. What about just for the cutter,

I already got the software.

[Ocean Designs]

make me an offer I will consider it

[jasonatf]

do you got any pics of it, that you can send me? Are you from socal? Can I get the model of the machine.

THANKS
JASON

[Ocean Designs]

I will get that for and yes I am in So Cal


Vince-

[jasonatf]

atfclothing@msn.com is my email

[Ocean Designs]

It is the Ultra Pro Panther. Yes I am located in Southern California. Orange County to be exacat. Here are the pictures. Sorry it too so long I had to set it up. I usally keep it stored in its original packaging. The one thing I did not set up was the media basket. This is a great feature because it keep your plot off the ground.


Vince

[jasonatf]

Vince, looks good. Whats the low you will take for it with out software.
Because I still dont know if I can afford it or not.

[Ocean Designs]

Jason,
I will consider $1800 if you will handle all the shipping. As an added bonus I will still include the DVD of cuttable art as a jumpstart into your new profitable venture. If you need to call me directley, I can be reached with the # listed in my website.

www.oceandesignsinc.com (http://www.oceandesignsinc.com/)

Vince

[idsign]

To All Members: :help:

Is it just me, or are the last 13 posts in this thread of the type that most members of signs101 would have handled with direct person-to-person e-mails?

Rather than consuming Fred's bandwidth and hard drive space with person-to-person posts?

And considering that each post creates an e-mail notification to every member who requests e-mail updates when a new post is added to a thread they subscribed to:

These last 13 posts may have generated thousands of e-mail updates.

(Vince and Jason - this is not to tick you off. This is an honest to gosh straight forward real world question. Please don't flame me because I am not flaming you.
Just a considerate cyber etiquette question. Eli, Chris and I started this site and Fred generously took it over. And from the get go it was by people who wanted to unselfishly help others improve their sign business. One of the cornerstones was to ask good questions. I think I am asking a good, fair and considerate question that serves to benefit everyone here at this site.)

Barry

[Baz]

I agree with Barry's comments ... Nicely put also.

[Ocean Designs]

Quick find the match sticks :Big Laugh

Barry
Of course there would be no reason to "flame" anybody in this group. At least I don't see one. However, you are right, I in fact felt the same way which was why I left a means to contact me directley. One should never take offence in honesty. After all, is in not the directness and honestly of the others in this communty which keeps us here? Thanks again :thumb:


Vince

[Barry]

To All Members: :help:

Is it just me, or are the last 13 posts in this thread of the type that most members of signs101 would have handled with direct person-to-person e-mails?

Rather than consuming Fred's bandwidth and hard drive space with person-to-person posts?

And considering that each post creates an e-mail notification to every member who requests e-mail updates when a new post is added to a thread they subscribed to:

These last 13 posts may have generated thousands of e-mail updates.

(Vince and Jason - this is not to tick you off. This is an honest to gosh straight forward real world question. Please don't flame me because I am not flaming you.
Just a considerate cyber etiquette question. Eli, Chris and I started this site and Fred generously took it over. And from the get go it was by people who wanted to unselfishly help others improve their sign business. One of the cornerstones was to ask good questions. I think I am asking a good, fair and considerate question that serves to benefit everyone here at this site.)

Barry


From one Barry to another... :)

Its not necessarly bad that people talk 1 to 1 stuff on a forum for a few reasons.

1. Some people actually like to read it.

2. It creates board activity. The more board activity you have the more likely people are to come back and visit. Generally it doesnt matter what the activity is its just perceved as being a more active board if there are more posts.

3. E-mail notifications tend to bring users back to the forum who may post and increase activity.

4. Generally the amount of bandwidth consumed by a view on thread is so small it is insignificant. If Fred doesnt have enough bandwidht the cover a few extra threads there are bigger problems.

Normally the general purpose of a forum is to draw as many users as possible within a certian group of people. In this case its sign makers. The more active the board the more signmakers will visit on a regular basis. This is generally a good thing for everyone including Fred.

Now on the other side, poor posting habbits can get out of hand and degrade the quality of the forum, I do not necessarly see signs101 as having this problem though.

Im speaking as a fairly successful forum administrator myself. Oh and this is not meant to be a flame at all, just some useful info.

[Fred Weiss]

Well this is now getting interesting.

My first reaction a few hours ago was to PM and suggest that negotiations might be better carried out by email, phone or PM's. So when ID-Barry posted I tended to agree. Now Barry-Barry has posted some excellent points on the other side.

My concern was that members here would find the negotiations via the forum to be a waste of their reading time. I could care less about storage or bandwidth. After a year this Friday since I took the site on, we are at about 10% of our storage capacity used and run less than 5% of our allocated bandwidth.

But I'd love to hear from anyone with other than neutral feelings as to the etiquette aspects of this kind of posting as well as what might be learned by sitting in on a business negotiation. Or for that matter, the pirating of a thread for barely related discussion.

We could even provide commentary and score each side, like a boxing match, as the process moves forward. Maybe even some expert critiques from anyone who has read The Art of the Deal or some other appropriate work.

:Big Laugh :Cool 2: :signs101:

[Barry]

Nothing like a good friendly debait to increase activity. :biggrin:

Seriously, I only wish the best for signs101. I visit the site daily and more people who visit means more people that can answer my questions.

[Ocean Designs]

All,
Still to say, I have to agree with ID-Barry. There are just some things that could be better delt with off line or direct email. No harm intended. By the way Fred, vitural boxing matches sound kind of fun, so as long as both parties can walk away with both ears and a smile to match. :)
Vince

[jasonatf]

IC, SORRY FRED http://216.12.201.158/forums/style_emoticons/default/doh.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:emoticon(':doh:'))Vince you can contact me at atfclothing@msn.com

[ApexSpeed]

I would take the other side of this. Also as a forum administrator, myself, there is nothing wrong with people discussing a sale on the boards. In fact, it keeps everyone else in the know for things like market value, if the item is still for sale or not, and if the person who is searching for the "wanted" post has completed his search, and is happy.

Honestly, the amount of space that a few posts takes up is infinitely small, and not wasting bandwidth in a forum of this size and traffic. There is no reason to force someone to carry it offline or keep it online. The parties involved are not against a public sale, why should anyone else be?

Point three, if you are getting e-mail notifications to classified posts that aren't yours, there may be some deeper rooted things we may need to talk about, like your addiction to the Signs101 boards. :Big Laugh

And finally, like the King of all Media preaches, if you don't like it, change the channel. You don't have to read EVERYTHING. Ok, some of us do, but that's beside the point.

No need to hide... I'm eager to find out what Jason can buy for $1800 because I still haven't bought my plotter yet. :wink:


doug

[Fred Weiss]

Point three, if you are getting e-mail notifications to classified posts that aren't yours, there may be some deeper rooted things we may need to talk about, like your addiction to the Signs101 boards.

Now you've found out my nefarious plan http://www.allcompu.com/myicons/bill_gates.gif and once I have you all addicted I will issue my orders and you will have to obey.

:Big Laugh :tongue: :cool: :rolleyes: :Sleeping:

[Dave Drane]

:tongue: Nothing like a good friendly debait to increase activity.

First of all, as signies we must learn to spell. Debait is what we catch defish with. :wink: :biggrin:

[Barry]

:tongue:
First of all, as signies we must learn to spell. Debait is what we catch defish with. :wink: :biggrin:
I am probably the worst speller in the world... Luckly I have not screwed up any signs yet... :D

[jasonatf]

FRED, JUST A SUGESTION, MAYBE YOU SHOULD SET UP A PERSONAL MESSAGEING SYSTEM ON THIS FORUM, IVE BEEN ON OTHER FORUMS THAT HAVE THIS, IT WORKS QUIT NICELY.:Big Laugh

[GXSignCo]

You can PM each other. Just click on someone's name and you have the option of viewing the profile, sending a PM, find posts by them, or add them to your Buddy list.

[jasonatf]

You can PM each other. Just click on someone's name and you have the option of viewing the profile, sending a PM, find posts by them, or add them to your Buddy list.
OOOOO IC, I DID'NT KNOW THAT, MAYBE FRED, "JUST A SUGGESTION" YOU CAN PUT PM OR SOMTHING BESIDE IT, FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AKA PRE SCHOOLER THAT DONT KNOW ANY BETTER.:rolleyes:

[Fred Weiss]

That was how I sent you a message yesterday and how you replied to me.

It's an option in everyone's profile as to whether or not they want to receive them. The default is yes. If they have left it checked as yes then it will be available when anyone clicks on their name which takes them into a menu for that member.

BTW, it would be appreciated if you wouldn't type in all caps.