What kind of shop do you have?

[GraphixCALC]

Trying to get a feel for what others are doing for their place of business. Comments are always welcome!

[super signs]

my shop is my bedroom:Oops:

[LabelsEtc]

Hi Chris! I don't know what happened to the poll questions, so here's my comment.


I recently added the vinyl cutter to my existing home office, but pretty soon there will be no room for me in here. We have a 19 x 20' foundation right off the back of the house that will probably end up being my workshop. My son has visions of a 'real' shop on the lot next door........ only time will tell.

Donna

[Decal_Designs]

Home Office for now. A 15'x15' room has been my office for the last 15 years for my main business, but with this vinyl thing added to my business I may move the whole office into an empty rental cottage that I have on the same property. Then, maybe above a new garage with office space on 2nd floor.

[rockongraphix]

Home office 12' x 12' , 4' x8' weeding table set @ 46" off the floor (quick stand up orders set for easy weeding from a 29" bar stool ) vinyl stored under weed table and substrates in closet, cant forget about the futon for overnight orders

Michael
Rockongraphix

[Billct2]

3,500s/f with 16' door and enough room for a 48' trailer.

[Lane Booth]

Our business has taken over the house! The dining room is the shop. This huge dining room table is my desk. On it is my computer, monitor, printer, 150 lb. Vanguard engraving machine, Ep Control Module for the Vanguard.

Over against that wall (fallow along, I'm pointing to the left) is my glass topped weeding table, which is really a dual paned sliding glass door I picked up at a thrift store for 5 bucks. (works great - dreading the day it shatters on me!) Supporting the glass table top are four sturdy shelf units, which are storing various tools and enventory, jam packed to the square inch.

Behind me is a small work bench and peg board for tools, etc. Behind me to the right is one monster of a sandblasting cabinet. That thing is gonna have to go outside, eventually, soon, tomorrow! Next to the sand blaster is a craftsman 33 gal. air compressor. It going outside with the sandblast cabinet.

I almost forgot the Ioline Super 88 vinyl plotter, which stands cockeyed at the end of my dining room table/desk, taking up almost as much room as the sandblaster. And then there are the 30 plastic storage bins stacked almost to the cieling, tucked under my desk and flowing gracefully into the laundry room. And lets not forget the 30 other boxes of trophy shop enventory that's crammed and stashed into every nook and cranny of the rest of the house, back porch and shed.

One of our spare bedrooms is Katie's office. That's also my darkroom for storing files and material, and burning photo sensitive sandblast mask. The other spare bedroom is storage; just enough room to open the door.

Amazingly enough, it works...but I can't waite for the day when we'll beable to get a real shop with a real store front.

One thing that's kinda nice... the chair at my desk is a big comfortable black leather Lazy-boy recliner. Nice, but really it's just huge and gets in the way.

[Webbum]

A corner in my basement. It's crammed, but it's working for me at the moment. Only small jobs so far.

[Burek]

We have a full service print shop in Richmond, IN.
Apparel, signage, ad specialty, embroidery.

- 750 ft2. offices
- 2000 ft2. print facility (but it's getting kind of cramped).

Recently added a vinyl cutter to up the size of our signs and do one-offs for less money.

[Fred Weiss]

1800' retail store in a plaza anchored by an Office Depot. All open except for saw room in back. One 5' x 20' worktable, two 4' x 8' tables. Two sectional desks across front with opening in middle.

[ENTDesign]

I used to think my house was strange, but you guys have made me feel normal! I have an Encad Novacut 24 in the living room, along with bunches of rolls of vinyl, the "kitchen" table is next to it (in the living room) holding my PC and a color laser printer. The dining room is my hubby's office, a spare bedroom is my office (with another PC and my Mac and way too many inkjet printers), I use the part of the garage I can walk in to make banners, magnets, yard signs, etc. with several large workbenches. I am trying to get the back porch cleared so I can wall the 2 open sides and make it an indoor work area with the coveted HVAC. Doing viny work in a hot garage is not a bunch of fun. I am looing at getting into airbrushing, but I don't think I want a compressor in my livingroom!

[Decal_Designs]

That would be crazy putting a compressor in your living room. Come on.
That belongs in the laundry room don't you think? :Big Laugh

When I look around my house, I can't figure out why I bought a house, and not just a very large garage? :help:

[Vital Designs]

1000 sq ft retail showroom in town. 2400 sqft shop at the house.

Vinyl, Eco solvent printing, 4x8 CNC with plasma cutter, Garment screen printing, Embroidery, dye sublimation & heat transfers.

[smullen]

Home shop.. I do all my design/Cutting, etc in my 10x12' office and my weeding and application and such in my dinning room...

[JMDigital]

Great rooms ..:U Rock: haha I am glad to see im not the only one with a shop in the house. Ok.. somehow I figured out how to put a Roland CJ500 in my spare bedroom/Office (that my wife seems to think is there to hold the folded up laundry?:tongue: ?) I had to take it off the stand and tip one end about 5ft in the air while my wife carefully slid the light end in the door (small hallway) then when I got it back on the stand I has the stand reversed. well I can tell you if you dont have the take up roller it will work either way.. hehe. I am 90% finished converting my 1 car garrage to an office so I guess we will be lifting that printer again. ( I am thinking about takeing it out the window tho.. ) Also I have an HP ColorLaserjet 8550 in this room. an EPSON Photo 2200 and epson R200 (for printing on CD's) the ENCAD 600E I used to use is in the garage ready for a quick sale next to the Allen Datagraph 850D Vinyl Cutter.. (the allen is old old old, the buttons look like they came from the original set of star trek! )the closet is stuffed with vinyl, paper, servers, oh and a breifcase my mother in law gave me to look pro at meetings, it holds extra ink for all these printers.. So how about we all take pics of our rooms and post em.. should be funny.

[mark in tx]

Set up in the back half of a retail Flower shop in a strip mall next to full set of Big Box stores. 4 x 16 work bench along one wall with media stored underneath, Falcon Outdoor Junior along the same wall, Graphtec FC 5100-75 on opposite wall, along with computer workstation. Also have a bathroom!
Have an older iMac out in the front of the Flower store to do the customer sit downs. Only thing I really want but don't have room for is a light table.

[Jeizzavelle]

We have a metal/silkscreen/painting shop out back (factory) main office 2 head cheese offices and my office crammed with desk, table (comp) plotter, and weeding/application table I use to sstore junk. I usally apply signs on front counter.

[Signsforwhile]

1400 sq/f work shop with 2 4x8 tables and spacious bay for truck lettering. 10' bay door. edgeII, envision plotter and ionline 40" plotter with gigantagram system. ~400 sq/f office and showroom with street frontage. state highway statistics say we have 50k+ cars and trucks passing by every day! i live on walk in business. in addition to that we are members of distric council 9 and the allied painters and trades union.

[CDC Graphics]

My basement. :Cool 2:

[WVB]

I am very identical to SeeSigns only we have 1600 sqf with one 4x8 table spacious bay, and possibly around or a little more then 400 sqf/office space/showroom facing a street frontage. We are in a plaza with storage buildings behind us. Our building is off the right by ourselves. We do get walk in business but would prefer more of course. We do have a business card size ad in the sbc yellowpages as well as our name in several sections of our second phone book as well. Are members of the ATX (Amarillo Trade Exchange) for local businesses.

TVG Pictures (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/wvb73075/album?.dir=/ddaa&.src=ph&.tok=pho.17DBiIciScGT)

[iSign]

I see this is a very old post, but here's 2 long posts about my shop:

http://www.letterhead.com/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/35428.html?#000000

http://www.letterhead.com/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/35779.html?#000000

here is a pic from one of them:

http://www.islandsign.com/its%20here.jpg

[ovrcafnatd]

Basement and Garage....
have quickly run out of room!!!
Would like to have a nice plot of land for home and steel building for shop
(ahhhh a place to pull in a truck to work on would be nice)
Maybe someday.

Literally have to rent out space from someone when I
sub-out signs that get shipped crated - no more room!!!
Scary thing is,,,,we could do these ourselves very easily, but
we've NO space

Sorry, but it's good to see we're not the only ones.
;)

[threeputt]

4800 square feet. Nice showroom, lots of samples. 9 foot overhead door in rear of building for vehicles. Separate area for messy stuff like saws, vehicles, painting, general work.

Clean area for two design stations where printers, cutters, laminator, vinyl storage are. Gotta keep that stuff separated.

Two nice private offices.

[GregT]

2700 square feet. On 2 levels, ground floor has counter for taking orders, computer desk (2 file cabinets with door for desk top). 4'x 8' work table, table saw, drill press, compressors, etc. Upstairs is for storage of supplies and a "kids" area with TV and DVD and little desks for young artist.

[Cadmn]

1 bedroom corner My computer desk living room 1/2 My wifes office area. Foemal living is work table & my signage area. 3rd bedroom Wifes embroidery /sewing room & 25 Y.O. daughters bedroom. Garage has welder, chop saw, work bench with tool boxesall my "hobby toys"( metalworking)

[Bigdawg]

We have a large corner shop in downtown - lotsa windows in the front room w/a half door counter to the back (where customers don't get to come in) THen a large room with the cutter, the vinyl and the mac setup. I have big office with 10-12 foot layout counter and then another room w/layout counter. Another small office and a crammed screenprinting room... and we need more space.. trying to rent the connecting office next door.

[Bobby H]

Wasn't there another thread along the lines of this subject not too long ago? Oh well.

Our shop is fairly roomy for just over 20 employees (I've lost count; we hired an additional neon artist last week). The main shop is over 15,000 sq.ft. and most of the metal work happens there. We also park our three crane trucks in there after hours to fight "midnight auto supply." The smaller shop has our vacuum forming machine, routing tables, neon plant and other storage. The design studio and offices are in the front and the paint booth is in the back, in a separate standalone building.

We're now down to 11 computers (after tossing a couple old ones). These things accumulate! One aging system will get replaced this week with a new Pentium D 920 based unit loaded with a good number of features to make it agile enough to handle both routine sign design tasks and do some serious After Effects 7 motion graphics work for LED video message centers.

[roxym]

I'm very lucky, have a 70' by 85' steel building, a 40' bi-fold door and another 18' by 14' overhead door. One corner houses my CNC machine and welding equipment and another corner is my house! We built our home right inside the building. It's two story with a 35' x 28' loft where I do the vinyl work. The building doubles as a farm shop and hanger, have an airplane under the loft for quick escapes. It's a wonderful setup for this rural area, most of my customers come to me and can do installs comfortably all year round. We do have airplanes fly in and can also run them in the shop for graphic work. Love walking right out of my house and into the shop, especially during our bad winters. Like I said, I'm pretty lucky!

[pgettys]

well let's see
we just moved from a 20'x20' garage to a 9,000 sqft office warehouse with a 10x10 door up front and a 12x12 door in the back Clean rooms for houseing my roland 545ex, versacamm 300, cx300, 38inch laminator, 65inch laminator we are not completely moved in yet should be up and running monday morning i am hoping if all goes well.

will post pics when i get it organized

[GraphixCALC]

Well I guess since I started this thread I should post my setup. When I first posted that, I believe I was in our old house that is now a rental. My "shop" was a 12' x 12' room and the garage when I needed it. We've since bought a house with a decent 20' x 36' shop behind the house, but it really isn't big enough. It is nice with an office and bathroom in it, and I had a proper heating system installed last fall (on trade of course). My goal is to move into an industrial location at least 3X this size so I can do this right and then be able to hire some much needed help.

[gvgraphics]

I feel so much better now seeing that I am not the only person attempting to do this out of my home!! We have a small room off of our kitchen that serves as the main area where we keep our vinyl cutter, desktop pc and laptop. As well as the washer and dryer, lol, and a table that doubles as a work table and laundry folding space! And the breakfast bar in the kitchen serves as a work table when we need more work space. We don't have anywhere to do vehicle graphics so we have to try to schedule those things around the weather which is a pain.

[sullosau]

mine started from a spare bedroom which has now grown into storage for vinyl mugs screens inks you name its there plus everything that got moved from garage, dining room now has two computers, 3 printers and a cutter, laundry is screen prep room, garage is screen printing and tools for day job and just enough room for motorbike! Ive told my fiance I need to move!
I dont want to let the business grow just yet, I want to consolidate what Im doing now until out of control but in control enough to take the jump which Im planing this end of year when its quiet enough to move.
And I also live here :)

Steve

[SignMan Sez]

Had an 1,100 sq. ft. shop that was destroyed by arson (the guy in the rental house next door) 5 years ago. Then bought a 14' X 28' and a 12' X 20' pre-fab building and placed on the back lot of the house we were renting at the time, but anticipated purchasing (which we did in '03). I now have an 1,800 sq.ft. turn of the century brick barn with a 10' overhead door downtown. I should have it "up & running" complete with sign by late spring.

[Bob 67]

I have been working out of my home now for 5 years, and im still married! Ive got two computers in the living room, versacamm in spare room and my plotter in the basement with the tables and supplies. But, it has paid off. My bank finally purchased my first building yesterday! Only 300 more payments to go and its mine. I bought a unit in a light industrial strip that is still under construction, 1450 sq. ft. on the main floor with a 12' roll up and tons of parking for larger vehicles. I'm hoping they will be finished end of april. I need to pick out heating and lighting for the building in the next two weeks, Anyone have likes or dislikes on their systems?

Bob.

[Arlo Kalon]

I can remember as a teenager - inspired by a legendary "one armed" sign painter in the town where I lived - "beginning" my business in my Mom's kitchen (before computers of course). She DID NOT talke kindly to the day I pounced a pattern with the sprocket wheel pouncer on her kitchen table top, and had a VERY visible, permanent layout of the sign I was gonna do on her nice wooden table top! (NOBODY had told me to put cardboard under the paper!).

BIGGEST shop I had was an aircraft hangar that's now a flight museum big enough for a restored B17 WW2 bomber! I had three complete 18 wheeler rigs in it once to letter! Got tired of pigeons expressing their opinions of my signs from the rafters, and so got a smaller place eventually - sans birds.

Currently have a "typical" small shop, about 1800s.f. w/ 2 ofcs & warehouse w/OH door. Getting ready to add second & third plotters to the mix, since I THINK Omega can run up to five at once? Newest area I want to pursue is something I saw "A DAVE 800" I think mention in here, printing sports team and school decals. He's far enough away from me in Texas I don't think there's much chance we'll be bidding against each other (TX is a BIG state!).

Last thing... I have a storefront I use to a lot of advantage for advertising myself. Y'all have an excellent day!
Arlo

[hammered]

Im in a small garden apartment with a garage. My computer and plotter are in the apartment, but all my weeding equipment is in the garage. Once I get everything orginized, Ill use the garage for vehicle lettering.

[OldPaint]

i had a store front for 20 months here in pcola. had to close it up and back to house. i have a bedroom 12x 14 i use as the computer/plotter/weeding room. it right off the 12x20 carport where i have a 4x8 easel set up on the wall.
can do most vehicles in the carport or yard. i jst built this 24x30 commercial metal building(140 MPH wind load)on the property. iam close to $20k into it and the wife and i did most of the building.
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/145/145442/folders/214219/1690400Image001A.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/145/145442/folders/214219/1857735Image031s.jpg

[Cadmn]

OP those floors lookslick NIce stuff & the guard Cat in pic one.

[South End Signs]

I went from a home-based shop in my apartment to a small storefront sublet in a UPS Store location on a 6 month lease with option to renew upon a renegotiated rent amount come June '06. Well the store has been sold and the new franchisee told me the new rental rate today - I'll be moving everything back home come June as I refuse to pay what I find to be too high of a figure for the location. Its not like the UPS customers have been my bread and butter and my regulars will know where to find me.

Now I've also heard that someone else with a business deemed to compliment the UPS offerings has been chasing this space ever since I got into the lease. I wonder if they are the reason for a higher than average rental rate being announced.

Looks like the 2 minute commute from home to the shop will go back to being a 15 second commute each day.

Jean-Claude

[Victory Signs]

My shop is a 36 x 45 with 2 12 foot roll up doors. The graphics room is 16 x 20 and in it I keep my computer, a 24 inch cutter, a 36 inch cutter, a 40" x 60" light table, my heat press and 2 lunchroom style work tables.

[carm]

It seems most shops are run out of the house. I'm courious if these home shops are full time businesses, part time or hobbies. I work out of my home office as a hobby but would like to develope into a full time operation.

[JMDigital]

Wow been a while for this topic.. well here is my pics of my converted garrage..


You can see my CJ500 - HP Color Laser 8550 and Spike the guard dog..

[SignManiac]

I'm running my operation from a 3,200 s.f. building with a 12x60 gutted trailer for storage and painting. I live in about 700 s.f. of the shop so there's no commute to work. My equipment is beginning to eat up most of my space. I have a 5'x10' CNC router table, a new 72" UV flatbed printer, a Roland 54" EX pro Soljet, a 60" seal lamintor, 30" and 40" Ana AE plotters collecting dust, panel saw, diesel powered air compressor and about every small power tool you could ever need.

With so many projects going at any given time, space is a precious commodity. I'm already looking ahead to my future needs and even a 10k s.f. building would get cramped in no time.

One thing for sure. No matter how much room you have today, it wont be enough for tomorrow.

I do remember all to well my beginning years. I worked for 18 years out of a 1,000 s.f. basement before moving to florida and the location I'm now in.

[gtjet]

We have a shop at home 30 x 28 and a 35 x 40 foot steel buidling about 15 minutes away that we use for storage and fabrication. Not convenient but it works.

[grafixhenk]

26 x 26 ft converted commercial garage 2 bay area on Hw 66, printers, cutters and pc's on one side plus customer counter. Other bay serves as construction and installation area. We are running out of room so hope to expand to larger building pretty soon.

[OldPaint]

mine isnt finished yet....in the pic you see a set of double white doors......on this end iam going to add a 12ft x 24ft 10 ft tall office area which i then will move the computer/plotter etc from the house to there. on the other end of the building iam goan do a 10x24 concrete pad with a leanto roof for "dirt work" area. when finished ill have close to 1200 sq ft.

[thesignshop.ws]

Started off in one room in the basement and it ended up taking over the whole basement. Got a knock at the door one day from codes and off we went for a storefront. Currently we are in a 2000 sq/ft space in a small shopping center. The knock at the door was a blessing.
Our layout now is about a 20" x 20" showroom upfront. another room in back of that for our machines and vinyls and then the rest is shop with shelves, tables, saws, etc. Also have a big bay door capable of pulling in "barely" a fire engine.

[kalvix]

We are closing on our Work house next week. a 1500 sqft house with a 24x35 "garage" and soon to be kick *** shop. we are guessing it will last until next summer before we outgrow it. It was a nice foreclosure and should flip nicely when the time comes.

[williamson design]

I do signs part time, but I don't consider it a hobby. I do all my production work in my basement, and use my garage when things are too big to get in or out of there. I have been doing signwork since Nov 1996.

I too would like to take this to a fulltime career, but im not quitre there yet. The only bumps in the road for me are sales and health insurance.

For my full time current position, I am a graphic designer for a local college. I work on large format digital printing, presentation graphics, and web design.

Glen

[mystysue]

Our shop is 1800 sf retail location 50 feet off the main street in pasadena (yeah the one the rose parade goes down). Its an older building but It has been there 6 years.. we are in the process of getting it beautiful as its rather blah right now. We aslo have an upstairs (an additional 900-1200 sq ft.)that isnt being used at all right now and we are not sure what we are gonna do with that part of the building.
We do get some walk in business but most of our business is long standing accounts and word of mouth. The business has been around for like 18 years. .. ( we we bought the shop it looked like it hadnt been updated since day one) .. .. we have a older cutter.. that came with the business that is a Graphtec it is a real work horse and goes and goes, and we have a vision engraver that does little plaques and such that is a real money maker as we do all the little panel signs that the city requires electricians to put in when ever they work in electrical boxes. and our new roland versacamm.
I really need to talke some pictures of the shop as before pictures as things are changing there daily ..

[Flame]

Well, I'm working out of my house at the moment (um... about HALF of my house), and I seriously need to move. I have one of my laminators in my kitchen, one plotter and my printer in the living room, and the office is PACKED! I think I found a good building thought. About 1000 sq. ft. (not counting an attached vehicle bay). Should work good for 1-3 man outfit like I am right now. I've only officially been in the biz for a year and a half, but it's been going great. Can't wait to push it even further and find a bigger place.

[Arlo Kalon]

Well. I've given this storefront a 7 month shot now, and wjile I've enjoyed working away from home after the better part of ove twenty year, I'm seriously considering completely revampling an attached garage we don't use - except for storage. I'll hafta get a storage bldg for out back Gonna insulate, drywall it, and put in a ceiling. Plans also call for a semi-enclosed metal carport in front of it.

My house is zoned commercial, and I have a separate entrance that is very obvious to customers. The business here just has not come up even halfway to my expectations. I am, however, still pursuing a business plan to expand a great deal and build a business I can sell around ten years from now to retire. I think the pursuit of that would be easier if I moved back home and saved a lot on overhead to build up some equity capital to have on hand when I go looking for funding.

STILL not sure about it all yet, but I'm only a few weeks away from a considerable financial windfall, an inheritance of sorts, that would make it quite feasible for me to hire contractors to get the garage into the configuration I want it Nice extra to my home is both a circular drive off the street and a long straight one at the side going back to the garage/shop. Plus, as I said about being zoned commercial, I can have a tasteful sign at my drive near the street to be easy to find.

WHAT would YOU do given this info?

[Cadmn]

Go for it arlo

[Mrs. Uneedasign]

It sounds perfect,I'm a little envious!We would love to move to a similar type property,but can't right now,got one in high school.If the new store front isn't what you thought it would be,maybe it's the wise choice, can't tell you how many of are friends that have had shops and tell us to stay put,the commercial rent is extremely high buck here.It's killing the husband to hold back,but he is.We need to have a little more tucked away.Why do you think it work for you at the new store front? Just curious,we can learn from others.Good luck on your decision.

[iSign]

Arlo,
I'm not able to type a long reply right now, but before I miss the chance to share an opinion... I think that is a bad idea.
The location you are at & the long history of being there is an important componant of the value of the business. that is one reason it hasn't meet your expectations yet... & also the main reason I suggest thinking long and hard about abandoning the idea too quickly. working out of a home shop usually brings down the overhead AND the gross sales... It could stioll be profitable, but the growth potential during your next 10 years may be less AND the value to resell it will be seriously compromized unless you sell your house with it.

[Arlo Kalon]

Why do you think it work for you at the new store front? Just curious,we can learn from others.Good luck on your decision.

Actually, it DIDN'T work as well as anticipated! I sold out a little over five years ago, and referred most of the people who still contacted to me to SteveC on this board. When I decided to re-open, I mistakenly assumed everyone would still rememberr me after five years! Some did, most didn't. A few of the better clients stayed with SteveC... but that was OK because I've never subscribed to the idea that a sign shop "owns" any given customers. When I do mass marketings, I don't skip the customers I know to be clients of other shops.

I just took a chance that a shop on a busy highway that I got for a mere $550 a month was worth the risk. I didn't sign a lease fortunately, bevause I told the owner lots of things might have changed in the 5 years I was out of business. I've always tried (on 5 comm. locations now over nearly 30 years) to rent without a lease, usually for an agreed on 6 months, to see if the location will produce for me. Half of 'em let me do it. It's always worth a shot.

[iSign]

I've been wanting to expand, & hoping a space opens upin my building. A space adjacent to mine would of course be my preference. I had one space open up in the from, but it was considered "retail" instead of "warehouse" ...so it was a lot higher per sq. ft. so I didn't get it... but when I thought of making a counter offer... I had the same thought. Get a 6 month opportunity on month-to-month terms... just in case!

[Pro Signs & Graphix]

In a proper location, for the product and/or service offered, the added overhead is small - as compared to the added revenues. Also, still agreeing with Doug, a good part of a business' value does entail property and/or leases.

On the other hand, as in Arlo's situation, it sounds as if he has primarily worked from home. This does come without its advantages (like going to work OP style). IMO, it is a habit thing. Once a person gets into tht habit, it is hard to avoid the "draw". Overhead is only one of the factors that keep people at home.

Arlo - What are the odds that you would really leave the signage business? I am not talking extended vacation - I mean walk away and never look back. I am only guessing, but the answer is probably never.

Therefore, IMO, you actually need to build two businesses. One that is retail, in a productive location - and another that is specialty or wholesale (preferably things that require a shop & expertise, not a store), operating out of the backyard.

If it did not break the bank - I would build - unless you plan on moving.

[Blake Wright]

We lease a 50'x40' shop with one 10' roll up door. LOVE IT
Didn't like customers coming to the house.

[VinylLabs.com]

I just closed my office, which was a tiny little thing, and am looking for somewhere to put the stuff. I was thinking in a spare room in the basement, but we have too much stuff in the rooms as they are.

my office was only 72 sqr feet. 36 sqr feet was used by a table.

[WB]

our shop is 4500 sq-ft, in an industrail park. I must say alot better then our old spot down town.

but we still have no drive in bay.. just 2 loading docks..

oh well

[Dane DeFord]

Shop?..... Whatza shop? You've got to be kidding me! I started about 4 years ago in the corner of my dining room (moved the china cabinet after the first month). I've laid out 22ft signs between the dining room and the living room (on the floor). Now, there is no Dining Room. And, Just don't have the cash for the jump to a commercial location. I will admit.... travel time is minimal!

Dane

[MAB SIGNS]

She DID NOT talke kindly to the day I pounced a pattern with the sprocket wheel pouncer on her kitchen table top, and had a VERY visible, permanent layout of the sign I was gonna do on her nice wooden table top! (NOBODY had told me to put cardboard under the paper!).




That is an awesome story Arlo!! ROFL

I've worked in shops from 1800 sq. ft. to mega warehouses but the size I really want to work in is the one that has a sign reading MAB SIGNS above it.

[jenrood]

It has taken over my house we have a 4 bedroom house but we have 3 kids so we dont have an office our living room serves as our office the dining room table is where we weed and cut. I hope soon we are able to get a shop somehow. until then my home looks like a shop.
:help: