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Kustom DeZigns
10-05-2007, 01:03 PM
I am just getting into screen printing and I have a question on stickers. I have a customer who wants a large quanity of 15" x 5" 3 color stickers. This will be a reoccuring order and its a pain in the butt to weed 3 different colors then stick them all together and making sure there lined up.

Suggestions on if it is possible to just screen print these stickers onto vinyl. The colors are red, black, white. Its just lettering with the main letters being white with a black outline and followed with another outline being red.

If it would be better to just cut them out of vinyl okay but any tricks on layering them to make my life easier? I use registration makes then try and line those us as close as possible but then you want to peel the tape up and peel off the registration marks.

If we can just screen print these what kinda of ink would you use for outdoor use?

Thank you guys

GregT
10-05-2007, 01:16 PM
Why not have them printed up?

Kustom DeZigns
10-05-2007, 01:21 PM
I would but I would like to know how to do it for myself also. I know that you can screen print these but it seems to be a top secret knowledge lol. :help:

Si Allen
10-05-2007, 01:33 PM
Unless you plan on doing lots of screen printing...farm it out!

It is a whole dfferent ballgame form cutting vinyl.

Kustom DeZigns
10-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Unless you plan on doing lots of screen printing...farm it out!

It is a whole dfferent ballgame form cutting vinyl.

I plan on doing a ton work stickers for this person. I used to do a lot of silk screening on t-shirts and some cor-plastic at another shop but never did the vinyl screen printing. So what kinda of ink would you use on this?

vid
10-05-2007, 03:30 PM
I plan on doing a ton work stickers for this person. I used to do a lot of silk screening on t-shirts and some cor-plastic at another shop but never did the vinyl screen printing. So what kinda of ink would you use on this?

Vinyl Inks?... http://www.nazdar.com/screen_printing_prod.asp?categoryID=15&sectionID=174&attrCatID=7&attrID=25

ChicagoGraphics
10-05-2007, 03:36 PM
Yes they can be screen printed, the best way and fastest way of doing them if your gonna screen print them, is to do many decals on one sheet. Flexcon and 3M plus others sell flat sheets. As what ink to use, you have to use a vinyl ink (by the way it's worse smelling then laquer) then of course you need to have 3 screens made.

Gommie14
10-07-2007, 02:53 AM
It's no problem screen printing with vinyl inks on vinyl, but it's very time consuming as it's not like printing textile. You will have to print one color, than wait until it air drys (or use UV curing/dryer if you have one), than make sure you have the vinyl sheet registered exactly back onto the table, and print second color, etc.

It's not worth all of the work, plus using nazdar all purpose or vinyl inks smell like crap and I believe the 9700 series contains lead (might want to check the specs). Good ventilation, and good health insurance is a must. :smile: Best choice is to farm it out to a digital vinyl printer who can diecut them as well.

Bogie
10-07-2007, 03:42 AM
How many stickers in a run? How long do they need to last?

If it isn't all that many, contract out printing to someone who does digital vinyl and who will use the material you spec.

iSign
10-07-2007, 04:43 AM
agree with majority of comments above. I screenprinted for years... not textiles.. just decals & signs...
unlike other inks though... the toxic smelling vinyl inks did dry fast, so often the second color could be printed as soon as the screens were cleaned & the second color screen set up... but the techniques to ensure proper registration is tricky, & the labor is so much more then edge printing them, I will never even consider that kind of work again untill electricty is extinct. Farm it out, or buy an edge.

njsigns
10-07-2007, 04:52 AM
How large a quantity? I would personally be looking at Stouse to do these.

Gene

Kustom DeZigns
10-08-2007, 11:28 AM
hey guys thanks for the advise. I think after all that i will go ahead and farm them out.

Thank you EVERYBODY

Illuminated
11-07-2007, 06:40 PM
Nazdar GV series ...It smells bad. Dont forget the work in cutting them out
Whats your plan for that??
I would agree Farm it!

Day Sign Co
11-07-2007, 08:05 PM
I spray GV on banners occasionally. The smell is so bad, anyone close buy thinks they discovered a meth lab