Creation PCut Vinyl Cutter

[Gary@Zengco]

Creation pcut includes CX280 (11"), CT-630 (24"), CT-760 (30"), CT-900 (36"), CT-1200(48").

Discuss Creation vinyl cutters here.

[Scott Reynolds]

SPAM !!!!!!


Everyone run for your lives!!!!!!

:help:

[Scott Reynolds]

My Creation CT-760 only worked for 10 sec., and then blew up, killed my dog and my roomate! Cool! Im going to buy more and send them to poeple I dont like. LOL

:thumb:


<PS, IM JOKING!!!!!!!!! I hate spam ,,,,,,,,, sorry Fred >

[Decal_Designs]

It's possible that it's Spam, but we should give the guy a chance first. Perhaps he actually wishes to discuss this brand of cutter. :help:


Zengco does happen to be a company that sells these cutters, but that doesn't make it spam so far. If this guy knows about the cutters and people ask for support about them, then it's not spam.

So far, he didn't say anything wrong. He might, but not yet.

I say, welcome to Signs 101 Gary , and perhaps you will be able to help answer some questions without crossing into the spam zone.

Now if we could only get the guys from VMP back on here! Where is 3.0? :cool:

[Scott Reynolds]

That was a good dog too... :Big Laugh

[rudeboysaude]

LvDecals..

Man, I wished you would have sent one to me! I paid 500 bucks for a CT630 and here I find out I could have gotten it for free!

Anyway, I can't see doing major projects with the thing, but it seems to cut pretty good for this newbie. Gets my little projects done. The only thing that really pisses me off about it is the Artcut software. I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but any EPS file I create in Illustrator imports into it with a weird curved line across the graphic and I have to use artcut to fix it all up nice and pretty. I tried saving in different formats and different illustrator versions but still problems. Anyone else run into this problem? And it's not just eps files I've created.. even downloaded EPS files do it too.

My other newbie question. I see people say stay away from chinese cutters but I bet even japanese companies like roland put some parts from good old china in their machines! It's all good. My american car gets me to work as well as a german engineered one would. Maybe doesn't take me from 0-60 from the stop sign as fast but do I really need that? I guess you get what you pay for.

A.

[GraphixCALC]

I'd say in the case of vinyl plotters, you really do get what you pay for...or don't :) Since this is now my livelihood (1 month as a full-timer!!!), I can't imagine putting my trust in some of these cheap knock-offs.

[rudeboysaude]

ohh I agree.

If it was my livelihood I would agree with you. I'd invest in alot more equipment than just a cheap vinyl cutter to start a business! I'd like to think that's not their target market for these cutter and aimed more a hobbyists like myself!

A.

[Kysparky]

I've had my 630 for about a year and a half now and no problems so far. I cut alot of 18" lettering and the biggest thing I had trouble with was tracking. May not track as good as some of the others but if you learn your equpment you can adjust it pretty good. For starting out I would say that the Creation cutters are pretty good. I wouldn't hesitate on buying another Creation product for my shop.

[Ken]

I've had this plotter for about 3 years now. I do agree that tracking was an issue at first, but I overcame that. ( there's a learning curve) I was advised that the Artcut software was not the best and went with WinPC sign ( letter 12). Since that time I am a Versa-camm user but I still rely on the CT-630 to do my daily cutting chores. I have not upgraded the Win PC(12) software. It cuts. The CT630 is now available for about half of what I paid 3 years ago. The minor problems I've had with this machine were overcome by digging a little deeper. I have run thousands of yards of vinyl through this machine. I am very happy with it.
This is not a promo..it's hands-on use.
Ken

[Techman]

Avoid the cat, bird, master,, and any other chinese cutter.. simple,, they are good for a few people. But those always will say good words. Why? Because they wouldn't wish to be embarrased about buying something that is so low on the food chain.

[Ken]

Techman, Chris etc.. I think you still reside in the "Made in China" syndrome. It used to connote an inferior product, much the way " Made in Japan" was viewed a couple (or 4 decades ago). Take a look inside your computer. Where are the individual parts made? It may say Intel on the outside..but what is that CPU plugged into? Very good chance those are Chinese ( or Oriental) circuit boards operating everything.
I believe that the North American manufacturing "ideal" has been supplanted by (and rightly so) off-shore industries that know how to build it better.
Toyota will be the # 1 auto maker very soon.
Those low on the food chain will be those not ready and willing to adapt to change.
What's for dessert?
Ken

[Techman]

Techman, Chris etc.. I think you still reside in the "Made in China" syndrome

Nope.. not at all.. All you have to do is read around the BBS's, and chat with a load of other persons using these machines and you will see why I try to influence others not to get a pile of junk. Most ppl do not have mechanical skills needed to tackle a half wit piece of equipment. Theres nothing worse to me than to see a noob suffer when he is most vulnerable. When he has no funds to take care of his needs.

I do agree that tracking was an issue at first, but I overcame that. ( there's a learning curve)
See, even yourself had a challange and had to "overcome" Why does anyone ahve to over come a basic property so important to a good cutter. I NEVER have or had a tracking challange with my anagraph. And I do not hear about tracking challanges with a good name brand machine.

All you have to do is read in this board the countless times someone praised their no name cutter only later complain about some feature that failed them. OR, had to get some service, or worse the failure to get any service. I can't count how many times someone called me asking for help with some machine that used some NON standard unknown inputs code. Or worse yet, have reversed input codes.. When the day comes that we all can support these machines as we can with a roland or anagraph etc. then the trouble may cease.

Plus, computer boards have nothing to do with a cutting machine. Especially when a cutting machine is put together with hot glue and uses poly plastic for bushings held in a stamped sheet metal base.... Your point needs a better connection.

[Ken]

Techman..or whatever your name..
Any new piece of equipment requires some familiarization..I did that with the CT630. I did that with the Versa-camm. I did that with my cordless drill.... Prob 1/3 the cost of a brand name. I do not disagree that quality tools are the most familiar way to go...at a cost. If you prefer to pay 3X the cost for a new machine, then you are 3 times richer( or dumber) than me. Like I said, I've been using this machine for 3 years..I think that is a fair enough trial.
My point , that you missed, about computer boards , fabricated overseas, Is that the tech is now in their hands.
Yes, you refer to many BBS posts where owners of " cheap stuff" have been stung. WE are talking , on this thread, about the Creation Plotters. You are lumping all "foreign" machines into the same boat.
Have you worked hands-on with a Creation plotter?
Yes or No?
Ken

[regpye]

I had my Roland stolen and at that time was a bit short of cash so I bought a PCut 630. Cost me $1500 and later found out I could have bought 4 for that money.
After having a Roland it was hard to use the PCut because of the lack of features, especially having to setup the width of the material each time.(Automatic with the Roland)
I did manage to use the spare Roland cutter holder without any problem, so I was able to also use the spare Roland blades I still had.
The PCut is OK for the money I suppose, but nowhere near as good as a CAM1.
Tracking is OK if you setup a stand for the vinyl roll and it is square with the plotter, I had a lot of trouble with it until I made a rolling stand for the vinyl. Works OK now, but I still miss my Roland.
Also I found no help from Creation as far as getting drivers, the drivers for Sign Wizard I was unable to get, so I ended up using the crappy software that came with the cutter. (Sign Wizard driver that was supplied from Aries didn't work, just made the cutter go haywire)

[Ken]

My CT630 did come with the stand and vinyl roll holder. Not an issue. I don't know anything about your Sign Wizard program..never heard of it. I use winPCsign and it did take some learning..what doesn't?
Ken

[PITBULL]

Anyone Out There Got A Driver For Vmp For The Ct630..please..

[zenith13]

Hi Guys,

I just purchased a PCUT CT630, and having some troubles.

I set it up according to the instruction, used the driver provided.

I'm using ArtCut, which came with the CT630, Windows 2000 SP4, USB interface.

Here are my symptoms:

From the artcut, I click on "Cut/Plot" button and the CT630 starts to plot few lines. But, about 2 seconds later, the blade holder goes all the way to the left, pushes the red button, and I get a message "Waiting" displayed on the small LCD screen. At this stage, no buttons work.

When the blade holder is pushing the red button, nothing works, as I (attempt to) physically move it towards the centre again, the CT630 resets.

I used "Test" button in Artcut, the plotter draws a circle/square and the the blade goes all the way to the left again, same thing happens.

Could it be a driver problem? software? hardware?

Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

Zenith13

[chopper]

seems to me that techmans point was just made with the above post..
oooh thats got to sting.. but seriously I have a summa and no issues ever with any thing load the vinly and go .. I also agree with techman to some degree I feel that the noobs are being misslead with this bs about "good chinese cutters" becouse there is no such thing, if you want to drive a yugo
go ahead its your life but you dont need to take some one with you when you go...//chopper

[Just Another Sign Guy]

and if you choose to buy one you know what you are getting into deal with it...you made your bed lay in it...sorry but i feel like we live in this AAA world where everyone wants someone else to save them from their own stupidity over and over again.

[player]

I never thought a plotter could be made so cheap when I bought a Master a few years ago. Complete crap! I could not believe how poorly it was made. Returned it for a refund less 20%.

I bet all the China 4 wheelers and dirt bikes are the same.

P

[Techman]

I just purchased a PCUT CT630, and having some troubles.

SEnd it back..

[zenith13]

I agree that there was some issues with poor quality chinese products, but that was in the past, things are changing very fast.

Have a look at a $2000 LG plasma/LCD TV... A top model, Korean brand, it's got a sticker that says, "made in China"! Soon, most japanese brands, european brands, etc, have a potential to be made in China, simply for the one reason - lots of factories, cheap labour.

I work as an engineer, and I find that making a same component from China, either mechanical or electronics, is so much cheaper than made locally and businesses love it. The quality maybe slightly inferior in some cases, but even so, it is still cheaper.

All your movie DVDs, majority of your PC components, guts of your entertainment electronics, your Sony Playstation 2.... they are all made in China.

China has the largest number of manufacturers in the world. With cheaper labour, majority of countries just cannot beat their mass production capabilities.

The benefit you and I get, is that these items come down in price very fast, because of their mass production in China.

Support is a big issue. Well-known brands have more experiences in dealing with consumers and already has a good systems set up for customer services. They will have dedicated people/system for dealing with customer complaints, where as, less-known brands may not.

As for my PCUT CT630 issue, i think it's resolved, it's been cutting away signs beatifully. Thanks again.

[Techman]

A top model, Korean brand, it's got a sticker that says, "made in China"!

That is the difference. Those LG products are made in China under the supervision of a Korean based company with engineering influence from around the world.

Those chinese cutters are not made with the same quality control and engineering background. They are designed to fit the low end niche. Yes they do it very well. But paying hobby prices for professional machines is not smart.

ITs like buying a Murry mower that has a duty life of 100 hours verses buying a john deer with a duty life of years.

[skyhigh]

refreshing a Year and a half old thread........ uggggg

[Rod]

Hi all,

I was just reading some interesting PCut comments over on the uksignboards site. A fellow there that claims to have background knowledge about PCut and how the machines were brought to market. Here is an excerpt from the thread for your consideration.

Cheers,

Rod



Taken from:

http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=24467 (http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=24467)


Hello Russ,

You complain about gremlins in your PCut

There are two manufacturers in China of PCuts. They are brothers who argued and split the business into two companies. They have never spoken to each other again. I am good friends with one of the brothers and have done a lot of work with PCuts and know their ins and outs pretty well.
So here goes and see if I can shed some light on some of your gremlins.

gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

Aha, you do not say what model you have. Is it new, old or USB and serial or USB only or serial only?
I have seen this in USB connections. I have not seen this on serial only. Solution if it is USB. Change USB port and make sure that you are using the main USB port of your computer. If it is serial make sure that the settings in device manger are the same as in your software. If USB make sure the same setting apply as well in both software and Device Manager. (USB is a type of serial -- USB does stand for Universal Serial Port) Most Chinese cutters are USB 1.

Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

The same answer as above applies. The setting on the USB or Serial port MUST in Device Manager match to the settings in your software.

gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

Not a gremlin. Simply there is no function or memory to retain settings in your particular PCut. These cutters are produced for a very low price and sold for very low prices. Do not expect all the bells and whistles of a cutter that is three to six times the price. Compromises must be made in producing anything low cost. The PCut guys have done a remarkable job to produce a reliable cutter that does a great job.
(About who makes & designs PCuts --- Sam Sun, my friend was the first person in China to design a vinyl cutter from scratch. He was a sign maker so poor that he decided to make his own. He did not even have a Roland cutter or access to another cutter to copy it. So from absolutely from scratch he made the first PCut. He is a genius -- could you as a poverty stricken sign maker that needed a cutter desperately make one from scratch with parts bought from a local electrical supplier? Sam did and it worked and he then went on to make them for other sign makers in China. And of course as soon as the first one was sold it was copied by others everywhere. So today in China there are 47 manufacturers of cutters, nearly all based on Sam’s design)

gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

I think you may have a real complaint here. It does not do this when I use a PCut and as there are about 2,000 or more month made and sold to the west I would heard screams about this long ago.
The blade offset should be 0.3 not 0.25 for a normal red tipped blade. The blades in PCuts are the same as in Mimaki cutters and Omega Cutters. Did you know there are four different blades available for different uses. They have the following offsets. 0.15 for very small letters, 0.3 for normal work, 0.5 for reflective and 0.75 for the real heavy duty 3M reflective stuff. The 0.75 is what the scrapbook industry also uses for cutting light card.

So do not alter your offset values. You do not say what software drives your PCut. As far as I know only SignBlazer and ArtCut can drive all PCuts. In SignBlazer the software does an over-cut. In other words it cuts (always) past the start point to stop this happening. I am not sure in ArtCut. I doubt it. We invented this over-cut way back in 1992. I have never mentioned this before and it is not in any of our advertising about SignBlazer. So without testing ArtCut I could not tell you if it does an over cut or not. I am sure that other western sign cutting software programs have added this however I am not sure. Some of the early western brands of cutters has this problem and this was our solution.

Another cause is a resharpened blade or a blade with a broken or damaged point. So try a new blade as well.
Good Luck! If you need more info just post a reply.

[thornfire]

Anyone Out There Got A Driver For Vmp For The Ct630..please..
Hi mate have got your cutter sorted yet ?if not send me an email as I have VMP working with Pcut 630
Cheers
Thornfire

[denniston]

My friend purchased a pcut 760 a while back and we've never really got it working right. the biggest we had when we were trying to get it set up is, it would cut properly through maybe half the art, then it would only maybe score the vinyl, or not cut it at all. Any suggestions? I'm not sure what program we were using, it was what ever came witht the machine.

[zenith13]

my Pcut 630 is running well. It didn't like the sharp angle compensation setting on the software though.

[elipson]

I just purchased the PCUT Ct-1200 plotter. As of now I am using WINPC Sign or whatever that program is called. Honestly, I don't like it. I haven't spent that much time with it, but if I could get the driver for Flexi, I would be much happier. Also, my letter curves are not very good at all. Is there a setting I need to adjust or is that just the way it is with this plotter? Please advise.

thanks

Elie:help:

[BobbyFosson]

Flexi 7.6v2 and higher has the driver for the Creation P-Cut cutters.

Listed under the 'Creation P-Cut' manufacturer.... Flexi 8 currently lists 8 or more drivers including the CT-1200

[Replicator]

Elie,

Welcome to signs101

I would suggest contacting Gary the original poster of this thread . . .

gary@zengco.com
http://www.zengco.com

[elipson]

I have a CT-1200. I have a lot of trouble with it not cutting smooth lines and curves. Also, it does not close the inside of letters. Does any one have any advice.

thanks

[zenith13]

Make sure your offset is set correctly. It should be 0.25~0.35mm for default blades.

I used PCut for few months now, and it has paid itself off. I am thinking of upgrading my vinyl cutter to another brand. Any recommendations?

Probably keep the Pcut as the backup cutter.

[zenith13]

Sometimes gaps appearing is not avoidable. If you are cutting a larger quantities of vinyls, cut 1 vinyl out, find where the gaps are. Draw line through the gaps on the cutting software, and let the vinyl cutter close the gaps. Then cut the rest of the 1000 vinyls.

It will save you time when you are weeding a large number of vinyls.

[Custom Stickers]

Hey guys,

I recently bought a vinyl cutter from a friend who bought it from CHINA. The instructions and software is all chinese and it didn't come with a seral cable.
I was able to get my hands on a software FlexiSign 7.6 (i think), and i got a serial to usb cable from the shop (rs 232 to usb). but unfortunately no luck :(

I have played with the setting so much im beggining to think its the cable i bought. does anyone know what cable i need to get or even the diagram of the cable layout. is it a RS 232 C????

also i have done a test cut on the hardware itself and that works :) so i know its not the cutter.

any help is appriciated.

Matt

[keithdib]

Hi

Does anyone know how to get FlexiSign to over cut the start position like described earlier in this thread?

Cheers
Keith

[Beejay]

Hi

Does anyone know how to get FlexiSign to over cut the start position like described earlier in this thread?

Cheers
Keith

Me too me too!!!

[Samm]

Someone correct me here, but I understand that only the latest version of Flexi has the overcut feature?

Thanks to Fred for originally teaching me the following...

You need to adjust your knife offset in the production manager.

PM - Setup - Default job properties - click on the cut tab - fiddle and adjust your knife offset until it works well.

Good letters to practice on are t o a i l s - just use something plain like helvetica at approx 15mm.

Bear in mind that each time you remove your blade this setting wll need to be rechecked.

Hope this helps!

xSam

[trace1266]

i just purchased a cheap pro cut cr 1200 i think its the same machine with another name.. it came with flexicut i think flexi would give the plotter to you for free just so you have to watch there comercials about how you should buy the latest version of flexi. I'm a little old school i prefer casmate pro but it has no drivers for the plotter. i also have flexi 7.5 it also has no drivers for this plotter. i'm not going to send every sign job to 10 different programs just to get a plot. is this plotter a knock off of any other plotter that you could use the drivers from?

[hunter49686]

I have a Pcut ct-630 which works just fine. I use it for cutting 25 mil stencil for engraving brick and stone. I have it set at maximum pressure of 255 and it does cut, just not completely through. I find I have to peel or tear the final edge of every letter. I am trying to find a way to get the blade just a tiny bit deeper. Any ideas??

Thank you,
Scott

[victoryone]

How Can I Get The Phone # To A Company Called Vector X Technology , The Maker Of Direct Drive Software That I Use With My Creation P Cut Ct-630

[HonakerAuto]

Recently acquired a PCUT CR730, and it works rather well. Also had to tweak the tracking settings a tiny bit, and it has a strange quirk of getting stuck in a recursive loop cutting the first path segment it receives data for if the cut pressure's set over 100. First item was an easy fix, and second item was corrected by backing off the pressure slightly and setting cut repetition to two or more passes instead of one.

I consider it to be a great learning machine and would IMO make a good starter to get into a more expensive rig. For the $ it's tough to beat.

[bjones]

That is the difference. Those LG products are made in China under the supervision of a Korean based company with engineering influence from around the world.

Those chinese cutters are not made with the same quality control and engineering background. They are designed to fit the low end niche. Yes they do it very well. But paying hobby prices for professional machines is not smart.

ITs like buying a Murry mower that has a duty life of 100 hours verses buying a john deer with a duty life of years.

Techman made the most important point of all.. Loads of things are 'manufactured' in china but designed elsewhere. The chinese can build anything but the can't design for crap. They are copycats at best.

[bradw1]

i have had my pcut 630 for going on 5 years now. knock on wood i havent had no problems with. the usual tracking but i have figured it out. i can cut up to 9 to 10 ft at a time. i have done several hundred(300+) racecars plus many signs and vehicle lettering. by no means is it the greatest machine but if you take care of it it willtake care of you. i think i am on the verge of upgrading soon in the near future. i did get the cibercut software that origianal come with the machine. would i buy another pcut? yes i would unless i just found a good deal on a brand name. thanks brad

[Mountainman Paul]

Hi, I just got a Pcut ct-630 from ebay new. we were able to set the pressure of the blade good on one side, the side that it started on. the right side... When it cuts to the left from the right it doesn't cut all the way through. What can I do to get this fixed. I hate having a machine I can't use. Any and All help would be great.
Paul

[DRamm76]

"I never thought a plotter could be so cheap"
Since when did the word CHEAP translate to something associated with the word "reliability"..unreal...

"There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse, and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey."

I'm willing to bet if someone posts a thread on here saying : "HEY ALL ANYONE HAVING TROUBLE RUNNING A SOLID BUSINESS BY CUTTING VINYL WITH A CRICUT" There would be more than one out there...

Is it too early for a drink?

[ADZ]

Hi there,

Thornfire, Pitbull.....

Is anyone here currently running VMP v 2.95 with a Creation PCUT? Iam having trouble setting up USB for it, as vinyl spooler V 2.99 wont detect it.

Please Help!!!!!

Thanx ADZ

[Long John]

Hi just reading through these post's looking for another answer.How did you go with VMP and your Creation I had it working with the same setup as you.
Long John

[mimirayo]

I have an old camm1 that was given to me as a backup in case of utter failure, but I can't make it work with flexi..any trick or DUH knowledge I am missing?

[johannsen]

Hi,
I have had the creation Pcut 630 for almost 2 years, it had worked fine, i am using the Signblazer that came with the cutter, here is the problem, i have to format the computer where the Signblazer software is, i am afraid that if i format the computer i will not be able to reinstall the software again ( i have try to install the software in other cumputer but is does not cut) , does anyone have a suggestion of how it should be done? is there any other software option that i can use to cut?
Thanks for the help!

[Techman]

do not reformat,,, simple

[johannsen]

Thanks for the info..
i found out that the singblazer software can be used in trial mode and does work to cut on the plotter.I will format and install the trial version!!

[Signage Buddha]

Greetings..
We have just purcahsed a Creation Pcut CT630. I read recently something somewhere about 'earthing'..? (carn't locate this now that I need it) Can anyone clarrify this for me. Basically it is cutting right through our image (inappropriate cutting). Using Vinyl Master Pro, running on Windows 7.
Solid advise and recommendations would be highly appreciated.
(unfortunately//it does not quiet perform as well as a graphtec):-(

[1leonchen]

i got one a a Christmas present. i just haven't gotten around to lite it on fire and post it on you tube. i think i will name it death of a Chinese plotter. after a hour of going through the drivers on Flexi. Called Flexi sign and they tried over the INTERNET and couldn't get it to work. i just wanted to light it on fire but i might get an *** whooping.

[Mosh]

Plain and simple you get what you pay for it sounds. Why not just get a Cricut at Wal-Mart?

[CentralSigns]

Hey ! I got one of them. Bestest boat anchor I ever bought. Stops my boat in any conditiosn. Awsome device !!

[striper14]

I've used a ct630 for 4 years & its still going strong. I've got an old roland pnc900 as backup & delicate cutter & an even older tractor feed i cant remember the name of. I'm too tight to buy a new cutter until this one dies.

Its pros are its cheap, it can cut 610mm wide, its reliable & simple
Its con are poor tracking & cutting of fine detail & if your into cheap cutters your probably into cheap software to run it. I dont think cheaper software co's are into writing good drivers for every new chinese cutter

If its cutting right through your vinyl your pressure is set too high. I usually start a new blade around 50. I'm at 95 now (normal vinyl)
I've tried cutting with the demo version of VMP with no luck

[ashorenb]

LvDecals..

Man, I wished you would have sent one to me! I paid 500 bucks for a CT630 and here I find out I could have gotten it for free!

Anyway, I can't see doing major projects with the thing, but it seems to cut pretty good for this newbie. Gets my little projects done. The only thing that really pisses me off about it is the Artcut software. I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but any EPS file I create in Illustrator imports into it with a weird curved line across the graphic and I have to use artcut to fix it all up nice and pretty. I tried saving in different formats and different illustrator versions but still problems. Anyone else run into this problem? And it's not just eps files I've created.. even downloaded EPS files do it too.

My other newbie question. I see people say stay away from chinese cutters but I bet even japanese companies like roland put some parts from good old china in their machines! It's all good. My american car gets me to work as well as a german engineered one would. Maybe doesn't take me from 0-60 from the stop sign as fast but do I really need that? I guess you get what you pay for.

A.

Had the same problem. When you create your file in Corel or wherever, make sure there is no colour - if you wish set outline to hairline and no fill. This should solve your problem.