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Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 12:42 PM
My yellow just ran out... I cannot get another cartridge in here until tomorrow - HELP... what do I need to do to make this be okay until then?? If anything...

BobbyFosson
12-30-2009, 12:46 PM
Cancel the job now and bite the bullet. Even if the job would stay in Pause until you put ink in it, you would have a pretty bad dry-line in the print where it left off.

You might try this.... pull the cartridge out and push the indicator tab back into the cartridge and put a piece of tape over it... This will make the printer think the cartridge is full again.

Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 12:49 PM
not worried about the job - worried about an empty cartridge sitting there...

BobbyFosson
12-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Should not be a problem. I would cancel the job and power it down until tomorrow. Leave the empty cart in place.

Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 12:56 PM
Thx Bobby :loveya:

I feel better now

LenXIII
12-30-2009, 12:59 PM
If its not a money issue cant you just get a cartridge locally? Like from nglantz, sign supply, fellers, or grimco?

vinylbarry
12-30-2009, 12:59 PM
How you getting the cart?
ANybody delivery I know ups just screwed me by not delivering Thursday or Friday I had a order shipped out yesterday a 1 day ship to me and it didn't come and wont be here untill Monday now Geeshhhhhhhhh.

J Hill Designs
12-30-2009, 01:02 PM
ouch gotta love payin for overnight and gettin it 5 days later.

Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Getting from Sign supply - and yes I'll have it tomorrow. They are as local as we can get (an hour or so away), but I'm the only one in the shop today so no way to get it from them. As long as the machine is okay, then I'm okay with no ink until tomorrow.

iSign
12-30-2009, 01:13 PM
I'd be interested in hearing more about this.
Is it really that simple... "power down - don't worry?"

I've never learned about any other printer than my mimaki, but mine is set to pull some ink through the heads into the waste receptacle ever 30 minutes or so, and since it doesn't wan't to pull air by accident, it shuts that feature off when any one cart is out.

So, if this were happening on a Mimaki, 24 hours without a clean cycle that is designed to run 48 times in that period would be a problem to me. I don't know how bad the problem would be & I hope i never do, but I would drop my heads into soak cleaning mode in the capping station. Barry from printingdigital.net told me how to do that when the same thing happened to me on a Friday night & I was out all weekend.

Is the Roland really that much different that you don't need to get your print heads soaking in a solvent during the wait?

signage
12-30-2009, 01:13 PM
BigDawg you ought to have your boss keep and extra cartridge of each color on hand!

briankb
12-30-2009, 01:14 PM
When I placed an order today with Fellers they said FedEx and UPS were not running tomorrow or Friday (1st). You might want to double check that it will arrive tomorrow.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/imp_exp/operation.html

Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 01:16 PM
BigDawg you ought to have your boss keep and extra cartridge of each color on hand!

I do... I keep a full set as a rule - and it's my responsibility to order when needed... he never questions my spending on consumables or materials. Which is great.

No - I screwed up. Went through a 440 cart in a week and a half... which I've NEVER done before. But I printed a buttload of lime green which just ate it up apparently.

Mark S. Adams
12-30-2009, 01:22 PM
My yellow just ran out... I cannot get another cartridge in here until tomorrow - HELP... what do I need to do to make this be okay until then?? If anything...

Hey you! Where's my print job? :omg2:


Tomorrow you say? Well, fine then. :U Rock:

(Normally a lurker, but when I saw this right after talking to you on the phone, I put 2 and 2 together. :thumb:)

Mark

BobbyFosson
12-30-2009, 01:23 PM
The only time I have run into issues with powering the Roland's off for any period of time directly related to some (not all) third party inks.

The periodic maintenance is a good feature for most but can be a bit wasteful for others. IMO.

I have purposely left the heads uncapped and my XC-540 powered off for 3 days to see what happened. Ended up having to to do a manual clean and 2 normal cleans via the Maintenance Menu before all nozzles were back to 100%.

Probably ran the same amount of ink during the 2 normal cleans that would have been used during the normal cleaning if the unit was powered on... but oh well.

Bigdawg
12-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Damn Mark - gonna have to watch it now LOL

Mainframe
12-30-2009, 02:20 PM
I was told by my roland rep to leave it beep for a day or blow out of the job & power it down, either way it wouldn't matter, I powered it down & always have extra carts on hand.-or at least try to

javila
12-30-2009, 06:17 PM
I have left my printer four about 24 hrs beeping for ink, no issues.

I've also left it off for about 24hrs after beeping, and then secondary power off, no issues.

Not sure about 5 days though.

Pat White
12-30-2009, 07:15 PM
Hey Doug...not sure about Mimaki's...but I know originally our Roland XC-540 was set to clean after every 1/2 hr of printing. When I asked our tech guy about it he said it was safe to turn off...since it wastes so much ink. I have it set to clean once a day now...
I think the frequent automatic cleanings are good if you don't do much cleaning, but if you're printing every day they are pretty wasteful.
Just a thought... someone please correct me if I'm wrong here!

gnatt66
02-15-2010, 12:15 PM
just did the same thing...and all my suppliers are closed today. i was all set to drive to get some ink this morning and decided i'd call and see if they were open...nope.

UGH. i was sick of the chirping and just shut it down...i'll drive to mass tomorrow and get a cart.

hope it'll be ok. (vp-300i)

BobbyFosson
02-15-2010, 12:27 PM
Cap the heads and you will be fine. Even uncapped, it should be fine until tomorrow. 24 hours, or so, should not cause a problem.

gnatt66
02-15-2010, 12:41 PM
by 'capping the heads' i assume you mean to make sure the heads are resting in the capping station? pardon my noobness....

BobbyFosson
02-15-2010, 12:42 PM
You would be correct in your assumption :)

gnatt66
02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
update: was OUT of magenta starting sometime over the weekend...only one test print since Feb 2nd(vacation)... fired in a cartridge of Magenta an hour ago and it went through it's usual cleaning cycle, etc...did a test print...perfect.

i dont know about other printer makes...but this lil Roland makes me happy... :)

BobbyFosson
02-18-2010, 04:07 PM
The hell with making you happy, it should be making you MONEY ! Keep a set of ink on standby :)

JR Digital
03-09-2010, 06:37 AM
When I used to use carts I've had this happen to me and just left the machine as is until I replaced the cart few days later and the job contiued

leerees
03-09-2010, 07:39 AM
I feel your pain on this. I use a bulk ink system on a mutoh 1604. From day one I made it compulsory to keep 2 bottles of spare ink of every colour.

We have to insert these chips into our bulk system. The day before install everything was printing ok and one of the chips ran out. No problems I inserted the other chip, didn't work. So I resorted to using my emergency chip, it ran out and the job still didn't get printed on time.

Ink up, and chip up to the max at all times, you never know what emergency job is round the corner.