Luma brite

[dlndesign]

Has anyone here worked with this stuff yet?
http://lumabrite.com/pcbeach.net/Lighted_Vehicle_Wraps.html

[MachServTech]

Interesting, but I'm not about to be drilling holes in body panels.

[CheapVehicleWrap]

It ain't cheap to get into either.

[BigfishDM]

The stuff looks really cool thats for sure.

[Mikeifg]

The owner stopped by my shop on the way from Chicago. Mind you I was working on 4 semi trailers inside my shop as well as a wrap and was told I was too small for this stuff. So he can kiss my A** for all I care. Yeah I don't have the money to throw away

[CheapVehicleWrap]

LOL too small hu? What how jobke how companies, some VERY big turn down affiliates. I've noticed this online for the past several years. Gee 2 guys had a conference call with me and had no problem asking for approx 10k for the privilege of ordering the kits. I wonder if I had paid them if they found out that I was too small... would they return the money?

[Intelyte]

We're a certified Luma Brite partner. Went down for training in April. As long as this stuff is kept clean and fairly simple looking then it looks awesome. We've received great response and attention from the product and outfitted a fleet for a designated driving company here in Ontario Canada. Matt black vinyl wrap with white lighting:rock-n-roll:

You can see the video we made briefly here -->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnZYKNOSWU

We're going to be launching a large marketing campaign for this stuff over the next couple months.


www.intelyte.com

[jhilldesigns]

slick :thumb:

[showcase 66]

That stuff is cool. I saw it at the roland display yesterday. Only problem I would have around here is actually getting people willing to pay for it.

[System Error]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIAtd6yS1YE&feature=related

This video shows you the back side

[Westcoast Sign Guy]

The thing I wonder the most being in Cali is, how legal is it?

You can't even put halo lighting underneath a car let alone flashing advertising on the side of a car which I'm sure is looked at as "distracting"

Have to love California! Our government wonders why big business won't open up here.

[Seven Sin Design]

The video proves how much attention it can get. And at night to boot!

Very cool. I do wonder about the legality of these lights on the vehicles though. Does anybody know if this is fair game anywhere, or varies from state to state?

[speedmedia]

The video proves how much attention it can get. And at night to boot!

Very cool. I do wonder about the legality of these lights on the vehicles though. Does anybody know if this is fair game anywhere, or varies from state to state?


It seems to vary state to state... some don't allow any of it and some allow it as long as it doesn't mimic an emergency vehicle. The way I understand it by us is it can be used as long as it isn't flashing and certain colors used on police, fire and bamulances aren't used.

Thanks,
Kurt

[System Error]

I can almost guarantee it is illegal in CA. You can not even have dark tint on you front windows

[MikePro]

electroluminescance
cool stuff, but doubtful you have to go through them to get into it.

and its only illegal to drive with them on, and no holes needed if you're clever with layouts... ribbon cables slip easily into seams of door panels/wheel wells.

[rexsee]

They us EL sheets, but do you use translucent stickers just to get the light through the vinyl sticker out?

[John L]

I really like it for a parked, static display, convention, grand opening, etc. Pretty cool stuff.

If you listen close, you can here the squeak of the pens busily writing all the new laws - so much for driving down the road like that. Maybe the company asking 10K to set you up, is trying to set you up?

[AUTO-FX]

urethane doming encapsulates the lighting

[System Error]

We're a certified Luma Brite partner. Went down for training in April. As long as this stuff is kept clean and fairly simple looking then it looks awesome. We've received great response and attention from the product and outfitted a fleet for a designated driving company here in Ontario Canada. Matt black vinyl wrap with white lighting:rock-n-roll:

You can see the video we made briefly here -->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnZYKNOSWU

We're going to be launching a large marketing campaign for this stuff over the next couple months.


www.intelyte.com (http://www.intelyte.com)

If you become a certified supplier, do you make the wraps in house with the technology or does lumabright make it and send to you?

[Coloradosigns]

I had a guy stop in the other day wanting me to become a dealer, the first and only in Colorado. It seems like a good investment to find a nitch in. If you're a dealer you can install at your shop. You get training and "dealer" prices on the stuff. If you're not you have to take it to someone who is a dealer to install it. The stuff ranges from $85 a SQFT to $120 a SQFT. and you don't have to drill holes in the doors if you don't want to . It just makes installs easier. The initial start out dealer cost is 6k a year and 3k every year after that. I'm prob. going to pass on it. i have no idea how to market this thing and who will pay for it.

[copythat]

The only problem I have is it's cost. You have to buy into their system. Several thousand to become a dealer. They do provide training on how to sell the product.

So after you are trained, you send them the artwork & they prepare it for you. And you are billed on top of that. I feel if they cut out this pay-to-sell our product concept, they will have greater sales! JMO





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[MikePro]

i can order El Wire off the internet, and use doming epoxy to mount it to vehicle wraps... so why do I need to pay them thousands of dollars a year?
o, and the stuff has a half-life of ~6months... even if they're not running them fulltime, lets just say a YEAR later I can expect customers to wonder why their wraps look like day-old glowsticks?
i'll pass on marketing it, but I might just do it on my own car for ****s... and if a client wants one, i'll have to be brutally honest about what they're going to expect and that's no sales pitch worth 6k/year.

[Kentucky Wraps]

We're a certified Luma Brite partner. Went down for training in April. As long as this stuff is kept clean and fairly simple looking then it looks awesome. We've received great response and attention from the product and outfitted a fleet for a designated driving company here in Ontario Canada. Matt black vinyl wrap with white lighting:rock-n-roll:

You can see the video we made briefly here -->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnZYKNOSWU

We're going to be launching a large marketing campaign for this stuff over the next couple months.


www.intelyte.com (http://www.intelyte.com)

Pretty sure it's illegal to drive with it flashing like that. And won't suprise me if they ban it from being on at all while driving in every metropolitan city. This day and age...what's to stop someone from suing me for having an accident while my "shocking" lit graphics drove by them? Yes..it's a great idea. But for the financial commitment...it still has the risk factor attached to it.

[natedawg9640]

that wouldn't fly in wisconsin if the car is on the road.

[os101king]

New Jersey Law

39:3-52. Additional lighting equipment
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than one running board courtesy lamp on each side thereof which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with a back-up lamp either separately or in combination with another lamp; except that no such back-up lamp shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.

They're illegal, plain and simple in Jersey. Anything that does or CAN flash is illegal. Also the colors of anything you DO put on are regulated, white/yellow/amber at front or on sides near front and red at rear or on sides near rear.

[The Phranc]

I installed blue EL sheeting above my shower. I wonder how different this stuff is. I'll bet you can adopt that to work like this stuff does.

[phototec]

You can purchase kits here, then print on clear media and sandwich them together to make your own EL graphics panels.

http://www.elec2go.com.au/category7_1.htm

[shakey0818]

Everyone seems to be complaining about the price.I think the price has nothing to do with it i just think it's those inability to see the potential of this and their lack of marketing skills.I think some major companies would like to be the 1st to use it provided you have a good marketing plan.I can think of at least 10 people on this forum who i think have the experience and personality to take this product and run with it.Remember the same things were said about the Gerber Edge and i bet many of the first few people who jumped on the band wagon were very happy they did.Possibilities of this product are endless,corporate,ADA,stores who want to stand out,small pizza delivery signs,energy drinks,motor-x,race cars,many many things you just gotta dream and make it happen instead of putting it down,you may just be left in the dust.Evolution of the sign man has proven this year after.

[CheapVehicleWrap]

Well, left in the dust I shall be. The only thing worse that paying 10k to test market someone else's dream although cool, but questionable is beta testing Microsofts bugs for nearly 3 decades for free.

[Cre8tive Advertising]

I have seen the product in person and installed on their demo vehicle... It's cool at night, but during the day it pretty much looks like there are a lot of screw up in the wrap.

If you really want to do it you can purchase all the products over the internet on your own. No need to go through them. As for as I know that don't manufacture anything just package stuff from other industries and sell it to you for re-purposing. I'm sure many of you in your mid to early 30's, like me, remember the Electro Luminescent rope that auto part stores used to sell to light up the dashboards in import cars... Yeah.. Same stuff... lol

If your looking for ways to make your wraps stand out more at night play around with printable reflective film. You can get some crazy effects with it and it will glow like a t.v. with traffic around and lights shining. I've seen alot of it overseas, but not so much in the U.S.

[sghobbies]

How are they doing this kinda stuff?

http://www.youtube.com/user/BoomerangMG#p/u/6/jIAtd6yS1YE

Says luma brite technology in the description, but I've never seen anything luma brite did that looked like this.

[The Phranc]

They make printable EL sheets or you can print on a clear vinyl then over lay it on the spliced EL sheet. I'm sure you can get a dedicated EL speller circuit if not an LED one wouldn't be to hard to make work. An A4 sized sheet is about $60.

[sghobbies]

Interesting...

[Media_Matters]

Luma Brite does have a great product, but specializes in the wire panels. I have found that most people would prefer to buy the flat panel design (considering they're the same cost). The issue with them specializing in the wire panel (E.L. wire and resin), is that they have failed to deliver the flat panel product (like the face on the s.u.v.) on time. I waited over 5 months to receive customer's orders and have lost large accounts, such as the Ultimate Fighter on Spike.tv and others. Since then, I have discovered that Luma Brite has a pending patent on the wire panels (due to the process the use to create it),so I have aquired my own manufacturer for the E.L. Flat Panel. The manufacture has been able to supply the product to me on time. If you are interested in selling the E.L. flat panel, feel free to email me.

[Farmboy]

I was just made aware of this product yesterday (Luma Brite) at our state fair. Voss Signs had it on display at their booth. Looked very cool. I see some other post above about EL Sheets and did some searches on them. Both look to have their place.

[MikePro]

Luma Brite has been pending patent since I talked with them at the ISA show in 2009... I wonder if they'll ever be granted the rights, considering the stuff is being mass produced in Asia as we speak.

[CheapVehicleWrap]

Pockets I tell ya. Pockets

[cha88]

i talked to a luma brite dealer today and they said that luma brite was having trouble with their products and nothing would be available till january as they are totally redesigning their product...? anybody else hear anything like this?

[CentralSigns]

Sucks for all the distributors that have to sell 2000 a month to keep their distributorships. Oh and $5000 in the first month if I remember right

[bshatch]

I have talked to 4 different Luma Brite dealers out there and they are all saying that they can not get a hold of anyone at the company. I tried to call and all i get is the voice mail system.

[StickySigns]

We are selling LumaMedia products (these are panels, not wires) for more then a year now and are very happy with the results, as are our customers.
Have done some crazy stuff with it, each single one of them are real headturners :-)

and they answer there phone/mail/skype whenever we call (Nevada hours offcourse so we obviously need to call out of our working hours :-)

They are definatly not the cheapest around but quality, communication and correct deliverytimes, and support has its cost.

Loads of cool projects coming on!

[bshatch]

I have delt with LumaMedia before. they are a great company and willing to answer any questions you have! But like you said they are a but pricy $$$