View Full Version : Desperate for NEW Starcraft Logo
Sign One
05-13-2006, 12:25 PM
Hi- We are making an 8' X 16' billboard with 3 pictures of boats for a client, The client provided me with Mastercraft and Odyssey logos, but says the vendor did not have .eps of the new Starcraft Boats Logo, I got the old one at brands of the world, but it isn't the same- I will have to scan it, but that port on my workhorse is shot and I have to replace it, anyone has any clue of where to find the new logo- here is an image of what I need, I know Vector Dr won't do logos, i could try another co. but they take LONG time sometimes, want to put this baby together Monday- Any help gr8tly appreciated!
Sign One
05-13-2006, 12:27 PM
Thanks again
Flame
05-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Try getting the image into your computer by saving the logo onto a jump drive or a CD. Then proceed...
This one looks easy. Even if you take this low quality thumbnail into CorelDraw, you could probably work with it. Instead of trying the typical vectorizing tools, use your pen tools and draw around the shape of each letter and image. It will probably take under an hour, bill the customer because they couldn't supply you with a good image, and you're set to go!!! Flexi has good tracing tools too, and you could just trace it out, clean it up, and you have your image! I still prefer to hand trace images 90% of the time, and remember, it's all billable work!
Techman
05-13-2006, 01:01 PM
go here and d'load the image
http://www.starcraftmarine.com/showroom/boat.php?boat=385
open corel or some other drawing proggy,, and hand to it.. its that simple..
I just tried it and got the circle with the wedges in about 45 seconds.
Or call them just maybe they are open today. Usually they will give you a link to d'load it already done.
The Vector Doctor
05-13-2006, 02:37 PM
I know Vector Dr won't do logos, i could try another co. but they take LONG time sometimes, want to put this baby together Monday- Any help gr8tly appreciated!
Huh? I do logo recreations every day.
Sign One
05-15-2006, 10:39 AM
Sorry- I thought I read that you won't in the list of things you will and won't can and can't do- I will be sending it, it will need to be done rather quickly, but you were VERY fast last time- Thanks Eric
Shovelhead
05-15-2006, 12:05 PM
to be in this business if YOU can't recreate that logo.
Flame
05-15-2006, 12:07 PM
to be in this business if YOU can't recreate that logo.
Sure he does. Everyone has their talents and some stuff that they can't do. Don't forget that some newbies may have problems just learning how to start up their plotter. Everyone has more to learn. And yes, that means you too Shovelhead.:biggrin:
Shovelhead
05-15-2006, 12:13 PM
basic vectorization and logo recreation are required in my book.
Thanks for the tip though.
Flame
05-15-2006, 12:21 PM
basic vectorization and logo recreation are required in my book.
Thanks for the tip though.
He also said that he was having problems getting into his work computer. That would slow ANYONE down re-creating it. While I would think if his scanner wasn't working, he could always transfer the file via a USB port or a CD, maybe he can't. We don't know all the variables. I'm fairly new myself, and have run into dumb issues before. It's all a learning curve. When I first got my printer, I could barely even get it to turn on. It took me 2-3 weeks, but now I'm going though atleast 50 yards of vinyl a week printing with it. Just took me a little while.:smile:
Techman
05-15-2006, 12:29 PM
How about a paper, pencil and an artists curve. This one should take but 15 mins to reproduce by hand. Then take it the nearest copy shop and enlarge it .
Nutin hard about this one.
I am with shovelhead on this one. People who do not know about our software/machines have no business trying to start one up. Who in their right mind starts up a business with no research behind it? Try getting a job at a sign shop first to learn the in's and out's. At least take classes at your local community college on the software needed. Granted signlab or flexi will not be available but corel and illustrator sure as heck will be.
Pro Signs & Graphix
05-15-2006, 01:08 PM
Assuming you still need this and that you do not want to make an attempt to clean up a crappy jpeg, you can take the "clean" stuff and have it scanned at a Kinkos, etc.
We have been in that boat (pardon the pun), and their 24 hr. operations are an added bonus.
Shovelhead
05-15-2006, 01:23 PM
is to figure out what the font is and then distort accordingly........
smooth sailing after that.
Geary
05-15-2006, 01:38 PM
Exactly Mr. Harley Man! I could recreate that in about 1/2 hour or less. Blow the jpg up for a template....lock it in a sub layer....and have at it on top of it. Extend Helvetica Demi or Arial (whichever is closer) convert to paths, tweak away. The icon part of the logo is about 5 minutes worth of work. Piece o' cake.... ala mode! :wink:
Sign One
05-15-2006, 03:07 PM
I have been working with Graphix Advantage on an old Aptiva for 10 years, I do the scan to vector and clean er up- my port is gone for my scanner, I do have a new computer and AI and another sign software program, but haven't had the time to master it, just too busy with 4 kids, a 2 year old granson who lives with us and a VERY busy mom & pop shop. I will be upgrading to Omega soon, but not yet, will be learning more about drawing programs, but haven't yet, I have been making signs for ten years and my partner Steve has been at it for nearly 25 and started out with with the gerber 4b with no screen even.. I am not a Newbie, but like my partner Steve says
"Sometimes, it's not what you know, it's who you know." :wink:
Anyway, Vector Dr. Rules, and Thanks Eric. Asta
Sign One
05-15-2006, 03:10 PM
Man, I just reread that, Shovelhead. maybe you should change the first part of your name
Geary
05-15-2006, 03:33 PM
So whatever...just for shidz and giggles here's what I did in 20 minutes. On the house.....hehe
Sign One
05-15-2006, 03:41 PM
I wasn't asking for a freebie, the Dr. was in and all is well- I will certainly not ask for help again on this board- a lot of you guys are a bunch of pompous know it alls!
Techman
05-15-2006, 04:05 PM
5566 < PDF
Looks like the word MARINE is arial bold slanted.
Anyway the vector as done in corel looks great,, retyped the word marine and slanted it.
Will email it in CDR format if you wish..
Geary
05-15-2006, 04:21 PM
Yeah, Techman, it's all based on Arial Bold. It's a pretty cool logo....sort of "80s-ish" but, that's okay. They say I'm a "little dated" as well. hahaha!
Hey, SignOne....don't take it so hard. I wasn't accusing you of fishin for a freebie. I was just showin' off. I've always been like this. People actually love me! :tongue: It's just "shop" here. I've seen this before on lots of message boards. We wouldn't talk any different to one another if we were in the same shop in person. The difference seems a bit harsher on the internet..... the true personalities don't come across very well. That's what I like about this site. The people are not fake...just a little distorted and a bit "scewed" at times. :wink:
I've always said in the shops I've worked around that personalities do not matter....the only thing that matters is the job. In reality if Shovelhead were to give you...or I ....or anyone else one of his patented jabs at our abilities....we would just say, "Get BENT!" ....then "I'm too busy and my computer is down, Smarty Pants, show me how it's done!" Then we'd all go out for a cool one after work. :cool1: Or a cup o' coffee if you please... :Coffee:
~Gear
Sign One
05-15-2006, 04:25 PM
:wine-smi: I'll take the cool one!
The Vector Doctor
05-15-2006, 04:25 PM
fwiw, the font on this logo is not Arial it is Helvetica (with a custom slant). Although on first glance the 2 fonts look similar, their are subtle differences. Everyone save themselves the time, I converted it for Signone already.
Sign One
05-15-2006, 04:29 PM
:thankyou: You are the best- with everyone telling you that all the time, it is amazing you are still so humble and helpful! Back from our appt. If you have time you can call me for that info-- or in the am if you'd rather. Asta
Geary
05-15-2006, 04:35 PM
You know what Eric? I didn't even try Helvetica, just because I figured that since it's supposed to be a "new logo" they may not have started with old Helv. But, you are right. My bad for rushing. Fun stuff to do though. :wink:
I did notice when I slanted the font....it didn't work as well with certain proportions. Like, the right side (heavy side) of the "A" needed to stand up a bit straighter. Also, there's those tell tale signs at the ends of the "S"s .....on the Arial, they are inclined planes, whereas they are flatter horizontally on the helvetica.
The Vector Doctor
05-15-2006, 04:41 PM
Also, there's those tell tale signs at the ends of the "S"s .....on the Arial, they are inclined planes, whereas they are flatter horizontally on the helvetica.
You are correct. Arial is one of those fonts though you see everywhere. I personally dislike the font. I'd like to remove it from my computer but it is ubiquitous, so it stays.
Flame
05-15-2006, 06:46 PM
fwiw, the font on this logo is not Arial it is Helvetica (with a custom slant). Although on first glance the 2 fonts look similar, their are subtle differences. Everyone save themselves the time, I converted it for Signone already.
Thanks Dude. This was getting crazy on here! lol.
BTW, I'm gonna have to try you out someday soon. Your work looks awesome. I just have to wait for another vectorizing job.....
Sign One
05-18-2006, 10:30 AM
Just wanted to post the completed 8' X 16' Billboard I needed the logo for- the client had definate ideas about the pulled letter along top and bottom of the thermal prints, the logo was not my design, pretty boring, but I think the sunburst adds a little oomph-
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