Paint protection

[WOODBS]

i am looking for a template for a 2011 Winnebago Via front for Ventureshield application, anyone have a source? The only guys I talked to said they hand cut on the vehicle...a little concerned with that much cutting..

[ProWraps]

ooh thats gonna be tough. there are so many different shapes of those and they are not your typical "production" vehicle. i would think you would have to hand cut that one.

[WOODBS]

Just concerned with the thickness and not cutting paint

[S'N'S]

Could you make templates out of low tack mask?

[CiberSupply-TT]

You might want to consider using "punch" paper and creating your own template; take digital pictures as well

[jhilldesigns]

use knifeless tape

[Sign-Man Signs]

use knifeless tape

Huh? What is that? Or are you just joking?

[jhilldesigns]

its tape that has a wire in it...pull it off and it cuts vinyl

[S'N'S]

use knifeless tape


Here
http://knifelesstechsystems.com/Home.aspx

[Alti-Plotter]

use knifeless tape

Try it, it's useful in some situations.

[CheapVehicleWrap]

Goes on wet. How will it stick to knifeless tape?

[WOODBS]

Still looking for a supplier in Fl...?

[WrapCut]

You might want to have a look at WrapCut Fine Filament Edge Cutting tape at www.wrapcut.com (http://www.langeman.com/WrapCut/Signs101?utm_source=Signs101&utm_medium=forum&utm_campaign=WrapCut).

It is similar to WireTrim Edge Cutting Tape which revolutionized the spray-on truck bed liner industry over a decade ago by eliminating the use of a knife for the trimming process on polyurethane coatings.

WrapCut Fine Filament Edge Cutting Tape has been introduced as the problem-solving tool and method of trimming for the vehicle wrap industry. It is a very inexpensive alternative to using a knife and eliminates all risk of marking, scoring, or otherwise damaging the paint or glass of a vehicle.

[Patentagosse]

I'm doing a lot of PPF and use VentureShield as well. Here's my 0.02¢:

Doing RV and such "non-traditional" large front-end vehicles is sometime easier when working with bulk roll and trimming by hand. When these large pieces are pre-cut, at that size it may be difficult to handle 'em, not to mention that if you're a rookie at applying this, you may turn is sweat in no time when figuring the cost of the part you're about to ruin. As for the trimming itself, all you need is a brand new blade (stainless steel prefered) and dexterity. You can practice on a table before going on the RV (for pressure). You might also consider that RVs, in opposite to cars, will not rust if you go too far so it's a great canvas for practice. VentureShield is a great products that also allow the installer to reposition the film many times as long as you keep it wet (see clips on Youtube for perfect mixing solutions).

Is it you 1st time on PPF?

About knifeless tape, I'm not sure it's suitable for that kinda material (let me guess...... NO) but I may be wrong (...) It's so thick and resistant (not soft as cast wrapping film) you'll probably get a big mess after trying to pull the wire from there, lifting your film everywhere and leaving marks / spots everywhere.

What's great with Venture is you don't need to cut through 100%. If you can adjust your hand pressure to allow, let say 85%, you'll be able to remove excess material as it will split naturally (you need to be really good to perform this kinda control however...)

Good Luck

BTW, these 2 were made "by hand" using 60" x 10ft single piece PP film

[WOODBS]

Thanks, I think I will go with the handcut on rv, I have done a couple before. Few were handcut, should be fine...

[Alti-Plotter]

You might also consider that RVs, in opposite to cars, will not rust if you go too far so it's a great canvas for practice.
:omg:

[slipperyfrog]

You might also consider that RVs, in opposite to cars, will not rust if you go too far so it's a great canvas for practice.

so if you nick/cut the paint of the RV you just call it good learning? wow just wow.

[Patentagosse]

Sorry folks, I just badly expressed what I had in mind. You can unwrap all the vehicles I've done, I'm not scared you find "scars" everywhere. I'm a professional and 'always worked on others vehicles like if it was mine. I admit after reading back the sentence that it sounded like: "who f*****g care about the surface" but it was not my intention. Keep in mind I'm french-canadian so translating my thoughts may end up with some misunderstandings if not properly done...

I said that mostly because I didn't knew the skill level of this person. Usually, people doing vehicle graphics know how much pressure to use, whatever the material's thickness because the will test it before going eyes closed on a +150K unit...

[btropical.com]

Sorry folks, I just badly expressed what I had in mind. You can unwrap all the vehicles I've done, I'm not scared you find "scars" everywhere. I'm a professional and 'always worked on others vehicles like if it was mine. I admit after reading back the sentence that it sounded like: "who f*****g care about the surface" but it was not my intention. Keep in mind I'm french-canadian so translating my thoughts may end up with some misunderstandings if not properly done...

I said that mostly because I didn't knew the skill level of this person. Usually, people doing vehicle graphics know how much pressure to use, whatever the material's thickness because the will test it before going eyes closed on a +150K unit...


I was taught along time ago its not cutting on cars it "designing on cars "

[boxerbay]

wrap it with a low tack printed grid. mark the trim holes. pull it off. put it on the wall photograph it. take it into ai and build your template.

[AUTO-FX]

Hey you guys, it's really really difficult to just 'make a template' with this stuff. Because it needs to be stretched to conform to the surface contour, and the stuff is very stretchy, you cant just "build a template" without a bunch of trial cuts.
Handcut is the way to go on this. I am speaking from installation experience. I've done a bunch of PPF work. You CAN cut the film without cutting the paint beneath, and frequent blade snapping is a must.
I have done some very challenging installs, and after using computer cut templates from XPEL (THE industry leader) and 3M, I'm STILL on the fence as to weather it's better to pre cut or cut on the vehicle.

[Patentagosse]

Hey you guys, it's really really difficult to just 'make a template' with this stuff. Because it needs to be stretched to conform to the surface contour, and the stuff is very stretchy, you cant just "build a template" without a bunch of trial cuts.
Handcut is the way to go on this. I am speaking from installation experience. I've done a bunch of PPF work. You CAN cut the film without cutting the paint beneath, and frequent blade snapping is a must.
I have done some very challenging installs, and after using computer cut templates from XPEL (THE industry leader) and 3M, I'm STILL on the fence as to weather it's better to pre cut or cut on the vehicle.

+1. Well said. I use 3M's software for over 2 years now but 'had so much trouble getting the material perfectly in desired position that I ended up going back to bulk rolls and manual trimming. I use the template to "figure" the sq.ft. of the jobs and to show customers where it will be applied. :rock-n-roll: