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  1. #1
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    Jan 2005
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    Hattiesburg, MS
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    What laminators are you using?

    What type (hot or cold), brand, and size laminators do you use? How long have you been using it, and what is your opinion of your particular laminator? We are considering purchasing a laminator and would appreciate any input. Thanks

  2. #2
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    My first laminator was a seal ultra 62" . It's a good starter. great encaptulation laminator, kinda tricky with pressure sensitive laminates because you have to use pullrollers. Its good for mounting too. it is about $8000. I Used it for about a year before i need something that can keep up with production. I have a Seal 62 Pro-D now. I love it, price is $20,000 ..

  3. #3
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    I have a Ledco 25" and a Ledco signmaster 44 with heat, I like them both.

  4. #4
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    Ledco Signmaster 44 (hot and cold). Works fine for what we use it for.
    Fred Weiss
    Allied Computer Graphics, Inc.
    Lake Worth, Florida

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  5. #5
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    Feb 2005
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    GBC 61" cold. Works good, not great (slow).

  6. #6
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    I appreciate all of your input.

  7. #7
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    Oct 2004
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    Sunny Scenic South Mississippi
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    I use a 34" CODA. Like Fred, works good for what I use it for.

  8. #8
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    Apr 2005
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    I have a 65" Royal Sovereign cold laminator, this thing works great so far.


    Ialso just got a SP540 which amazing as well, still have a little "curve" to go through on this one:)

  9. #9
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    Mar 2005
    Location
    Selinsgrove, PA
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    Smile

    Seal Ultra 44. Nice little starter Laminator. Can do both Hot and Cold Lam. I would suggest getting one that's bigger than what you think you'll ever need but within your budget.

  10. #10
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    Feb 2007
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    Xenia, Ohio
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    I used a Seal Image 600 for over 8-years laminating hot/cold laminates ranging from small to 30ft. long graphics and lots of mounting. It was an excellent laminator and can't say enough good things about it. Never had a service call and I always kept any blades away from the rollers. The only bad thing is the price but for high-volume lamination I wouldn't go any other way.

    I now have my own shop and purchased a used Sallmetall 1400 HS laminator and it's pretty decent but I am looking for an upgrade. It's hard to go from a Seal to another laminator but the Sallmetall isn't produced any more and I want something I can get parts for and a laminator with a media feed, tension shaft system like I had on my Seal. It's a must for single-person laminating like I have done all of these years.

  11. #11
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    Feb 2007
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    Queen Creek, AZ
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    ugh...
    I am "sans lam" and have to squeegee things, which keeps me off the big jobs. We did guy a 64" printer... do you guys think that requires we buy a lam in that size also, or would we be able to "get by" with a 48?

  12. #12
    You need a laminator big enough to handle the width of prints you're producing...don't know how you could dream of getting by with anything less?!?!?!? How ya gonna laminate a 64" print with a 48" laminator?

  13. #13
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    Apr 2007
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    SEAL Image 600md & SEAL 80 Pro for hard laminates

    AccuCoat 1600 & just recently added the AccuCoat 3300 for the liquid laminating. They are great but require meticulous cleaning after each use or you end up with a real mess.

  14. #14
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    Apr 2006
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    Ding Tec 54" cold laminator.

    Chinese, REALLY cheap, but had it for a year and a half and this guy just keeps on ticking. I'm very impressed with it, it's top speed is faster than I'd ever dare to go, it has good alignment and has laminated thousands of yards of vinyl for me.


  15. #15
    FM...which one do you have? Is it the el cheapo or the deluxe el cheapo? I have the el cheapo....would like to have a better one, really, and use this one strictly for mounting prints.

  16. #16
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    Feb 2006
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    I'm running a 61" GBC Titan (hot and cold) and a 40" Seal (hot and cold)

    GBC is our main laminator and we use our Seal for mainly mounting

  17. #17
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    CIIZ......... super-el-cheapo.

    LOL

    http://www.pacificcoastsignsupply.co..._Equipment.htm

    Like I said, works great! Although I guess mine is 50", not 54".


    $1500..... how can you go wrong?

  18. #18
    Yup, me too, but I have the 60" model. But, I got mine before they added the extra bars on top...I had to buy an "update" kit a while back to get those. Kinda thinking about the deluxe el-cheapo as I'd really like powered take-up reels.

  19. #19
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    I like that idea as well, but...... I actually get by skipping take up reals period. Just running it on the floor, or having another person take it as it comes through the laminator and cut off the pieces he needs.

    So, where I stand now I honestly don't need them.

  20. #20
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    Jan 2007
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    Indiana
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    GBC Artic Titan 165 - 61" cold laminator

    You are money ahead to avoid cheap chinese laminators (coming from experience)

  21. #21
    We use a 55" Quickmount 4. We use it to Lam & Mount. I think it works pretty good for a lower end machine.

  22. #22
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    We have a 55" Quickmount 3, we were not happy with it for laminating so after a year got the GBC, love it, can run prints thru quickly, and no need for sleds. We use the Quick mount for mounting and works great for that.
    Hal

  23. #23
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    Oct 2006
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    I have a Seal 54 base hot/cold laminator. Hated that friqen thing for the first year I had it because all it did was ruin my prints, seriously if that thing wasn't so damn heavy I would have thrown it out the window! I dreaded printing something and having to have to use that laminator because I was afraid it was going to ruin it and I would have to start all over which most of the time it did ruin it and I would have to start over! But as of recently I decided to stop getting so frustrated with that stupid thing and took the time to actually learn how it works and use it the correct way and it has been absolutely great! I love it! haha

  24. #24
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    Jan 2007
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    We have a 38" printloc pro....Hot and cold.. bought it on ebay and drove to Ohio to get... Paid $255.00 Great deal worth driving from Florida ... Just alittle bit cold up there when I went !!!! Use it all day long...

  25. #25
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    I have a seal image plus 62 hot and cold wouldn't think of having any thing else this thing is awesome, there is a learning curve to running a laminator no matter which one you buy so be prepared to spend some time and material when learning how your machine works //chopper

  26. #26
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    1) Seal Ultra 44
    2) Ding Tec 62" cold laminator. ( Great all around tool )

  27. #27
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    Mar 2007
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    Hey FM, GX!!! John sold me on the dingtek el-cheapo too. The other day the motor was running but the rollers were not so I called and was told to hit the manual roll handle with a hammer. It worked so I mounted the hammer on the wall and if I can find someone to make me a sign I want to label it “dingtek repair tools”! We should get together and talk since we are so close we could throw a rock and hit each other………..

  28. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by flat rock stan View Post
    Hey FM, GX!!! John sold me on the dingtek el-cheapo too. The other day the motor was running but the rollers were not so I called and was told to hit the manual roll handle with a hammer. It worked so I mounted the hammer on the wall and if I can find someone to make me a sign I want to label it “dingtek repair tools”! We should get together and talk since we are so close we could throw a rock and hit each other………..


    hahahahaha

    Yeah, John's a cool guy. But yeah, that handle on the side is dumb. What it does is over-ride the motor feed to the rollers. You need to "knock" it into gear when you first get it. Pull it out if you ever want to manually laminate (though, I can't figure WHY on earth you'd want to?)

    Hey, how about all the Vancouver, Portland signs101ers hit up a pizza joint here in the near future. Whaddya say?

  29. #29
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    Oct 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper View Post
    I have a seal image plus 62 hot and cold wouldn't think of having any thing else this thing is awesome, there is a learning curve to running a laminator no matter which one you buy so be prepared to spend some time and material when learning how your machine works //chopper
    Yes, definetely a learning curve! When my equipment got delivered...the Mimaki JV-3, Mimaki FX plotter, and the Seal Laminator I never would have thought out of the three the laminator would be the biggest pain in the *** to learn but it was!

  30. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by JERHEMI View Post
    Yes, definetely a learning curve! When my equipment got delivered...the Mimaki JV-3, Mimaki FX plotter, and the Seal Laminator I never would have thought out of the three the laminator would be the biggest pain in the *** to learn but it was!
    my sentiments exactly.. Mimaki printer, Mimaki cutter, and GBC laminator... and I've considered the laminator to be the biggest source of unpredictability too.
    Aloha!

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