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Printable Air Release that weeds good

bERT bRYAN

New Member
Good morning,
We are trying to find a material (whether 3M, oracal, or avery) that we can use for our simple ACM signs, smaller vehicle graphics, and cut-contour laminated graphics/decals. Something that weeds good once printed and laminated.

We have used oracal 3551 with 290G laminate - its perfect for non contour-cut graphics but finding the happy medium of cutting too deep or too shallow has been tricky. I noticed it doesn't seem like the adhesive side of the vinyl is as tacky as it used to be.
We've tried raising and lowering the plotter pressure, the speeds, you name it. 3551 isn't horrible weeding, but not great.

I've heard good things about the 3M IJ175C, but i saw it had low inital tack, so not sure how it would weed. We have used IJ180C, but it's pretty pricey for the application we are using it for.

Just a good air release product that can be used for numerous things.
Thank you in advance.
 

ozpall

New Member
i just ran 3 logos at 52"ea on IJ35 and weeded out super nice. just take your time or it will rip on sharp corners.
pic is for mock up of location not actual install.
 

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tulsagraphics

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Most any material can weed pretty well if it's a fresh vinyl, your plotter is dialed in (with a nice sharp blade --the newer the better) and you weed soon after the plot (you've got 2 layers of adhesive waiting to "merge" back together a bit). Usually when I have issues with weeding, it's from old stock, I waited a day or two to weed areas that didn't see much ink coverage. Of course, if you're cutting through a printed area, those inked prints will separate at the cut line after a day anyway.

I use a lot of IJ175 and IJ180. Both weed great from a fresh roll. I notice a few more issues when the stock is several months old (note: several months after I receive it -- which is not an indicator of how old the vinyl really is). You can check the date of manufacture on some labels and maybe choose which of your rolls you need to burn through first. Personally, I'd rather order vinyl from a smaller distributor that's constantly rotating stock vs. a bigger distributor that orders a truck load they sit on for months. When I decide which vinyl I want to use for a job, I'm picking my oldest inventory first. Again, not "truly" old... just older than my newest stock.
 

bERT bRYAN

New Member
Most any material can weed pretty well if it's a fresh vinyl, your plotter is dialed in (with a nice sharp blade --the newer the better) and you weed soon after the plot (you've got 2 layers of adhesive waiting to "merge" back together a bit). Usually when I have issues with weeding, it's from old stock, I waited a day or two to weed areas that didn't see much ink coverage. Of course, if you're cutting through a printed area, those inked prints will separate at the cut line after a day anyway.

I use a lot of IJ175 and IJ180. Both weed great from a fresh roll. I notice a few more issues when the stock is several months old (note: several months after I receive it -- which is not an indicator of how old the vinyl really is). You can check the date of manufacture on some labels and maybe choose which of your rolls you need to burn through first. Personally, I'd rather order vinyl from a smaller distributor that's constantly rotating stock vs. a bigger distributor that orders a truck load they sit on for months. When I decide which vinyl I want to use for a job, I'm picking my oldest inventory first. Again, not "truly" old... just older than my newest stock.
I appreciate it, I think we are going to try the 175.
 
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