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I don't think China is aggressive on economic. There are 1.4 billion population in China and thousands of companies in every business. Imagine the competition, it is like a war, but not to USA but between ourselves. Every single person, every company, they strive to survive and trying to sell...

I am not sure if they sell legal or illegal. I heart that without a permit, they can't sell. But they sold indeed. I hope they got the permit. Another example is, when I worked in another sign company, there was a customer who sold lots of message centers and at that time, our displays were...

just UL stickers doesn't work and it is illegal to put UL stickers on the products that not UL approved. That is not good to say what you have when you haven't really got...

Thanks very much wayne for your informative link. will read it and check out if our signs meet the requirements. Very appreciated!

And thanks Gino to start this discussion, it makes me learn a lot. I will try to suggest to our manage department about the UL issue to see if they can vote to apply UL. Guess this will help us to sell more signs in US market.

Am I right?

I see. I guess those customers who bought from us re-fabricated our signs in their plant to make it comply with UL standard before they sell. And they passed the customs there in USA. or, it doesn't make sense if they bought a sign without UL approval and passed the customs. Other possibility is...

seems that I am here like an alien or an criminal in the trial. But, I am a honest business man and I do what is right. And I search customer that can cooperate with us. Not only mutual-benefit but also "mutual-respect".

Hi Gino, I think I learning a lot from you guys. First of all, I didn't know it is illegal selling non-UL approved displays. I knew before that some customers completely require UL approved displays, those customers gave us up. But some customers only ask if we have UL on our supplies or at...

Hi, honestly, I don't quite understand your meaning. Sorry for my poor English. :help

Hi Gino, Sorry for ignoring you and didn't answer your question directly. To be frank, I don't how to answer it. At first time, I read your post, I don't quite understand and left it away for several hours. And then I got my translator to help me to translate so that I can understand better...

100 EMCs! That is a quite good job. Dak and Watchfire are good American companies. Hope your 100 message centers installed were done in one year a shorter time. By that mean, you are doing a good job. Hope you do more LED Message Center business. One of customer in Florida also took one year...

Great, congratulations! Hope more business come to you!

Hi, sorry I didn't make things clear.. I was trying to say that people who are in LED Sign business can communicate here what ever, technical, sales, marketing, problem they have,etc. To learn each other. Sorry for my English. Not very good.

Yes, it's true and very common.

It's true and very common phenomenon here,especially to do domestic business. Without a good "economic" guanxi, big business is hard to make. This is more striking when dealing with government. For small companies likes us hardly have a chance to make deals with larger business or government...

Yes, People from Guangdong Province eat everything!!! They eat can't and mouse which are not accepted by northern Chinese people,like me. I feel that's disgusting. Seems that you know a lot about China... used to live in China or ...?

Hi, Actually we are not a manufacturer for led strips and LED Modules.We are a manufacturer of LED Displays. The reason I posted this thread is to check if we can make some trading business for the LED Related business. We are other associated factory who can make those stuff. The quality is...

If not nations protect animations or sea foods, we can eat here in China. China has less laws on banning eating animals or seafood, river/lake food.Not very human. But,this is culture here. don't know it is right or wrong...:Oops:

Hi Gino, Your worries are also some others worry. UL is extremely important in United States and Canada. Our dealer in Canada re-do the signs and wait the inspectors come there to inspect before they sell, although we use UL listed power supply. We do sell some Signs in United States and all...