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any better??

ok so what are your opinions on this???

what about just removing the arrow..? and what do u not like about the "DESIGNS/SIGNS" PART?

thoughts??

I hate hate hate using using people ideas without permission & on top of that I do want to somewhat make my own logo/sign without bringing someone else in.. but after looking at what you guys made I came up with this.. and wanted to make it to see what you guys think about combining the 2...

this is it..

correct.. have adecentsize window towork with. Ive honestly been so hung up on trying to make it fits the sign blank that ive lost touch with caring about anytng eslse. Ill upload a picture of the location.

I like the logo. problem is im a little restricted on the shape I can go with.. City of Redding wont let me change the size of my store front sign. I would prefer something that isnt so long and skinny but im kinda stuck. :( 8'x2' is what im working with.. maybe I should have mentioned this before..

ok so I already had this made up before I jumped on and picked up a few more tips... is this workable??

:thankyou::U Rock:

thanks guys.. & I didn't like the "+" either already removed it :)

should I work with this or am I on the wrong track..?

well the north symbol would mean north and the S would be state "north state" Ill leave it alone for a bit.... Thanks to the people that have had advice for me I will use it and I may not impress you specifically but I will end up with something great as the end result :) this is an awful...

they are an "S"...

what do you think??

I was being honest... his negative comments are/will motivate me. Listen you guys, Im not the best (far from it) I know that but I have created good design layouts and some decent logos for people.. Yes I've been my own teacher with the help of the internet and a few friends that have been in...

hey thank.. all your negative comments motivate me :) I don't claim to know much.. I started out as an installer working for a guy that made decals for my race car.. ill get there ;)

ya and... I should know that lol I agree thats a bad idea also.... what do you think about the logo I last posted? it would be the same all the time.

:U Rock:

good advice!