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thanks guys - some of the things this lady said were odd at best - I thought maybe I just wasn't understanding her "communication style" for lack of better word. I tried to convince her that the signs and graphics business entailed a lot of different services, talents, products etc but she...

While discussing market research with my business counsellor I expressed concern about informing people of what I can offer them when I don't actually have (and have never run) the equipment I need to produce the work. Her statement to me was "maybe you can talk to another sign guy and rent his...

Hello all - I'm taking a course on running a small business - my assignment is to "interview" people in the sign business. Ideally it would be someone who runs a small shop or even home based. It will be approximately 15 questions - feel free to answer what you will and ignore what you won't...

LOL - maybe I should put on a helmet and some butt padding before I sign in:)

suggestion The way i see my current concept is by keeping JM and Graphics one color, it reads together, then the "&" is less important so it's a lighter color and SIGNS jumps out with the brighter color i used for it. The long box below i think can be changed for my website, phone number...

I agree Being a newbie around here myself I would feel a lot better about asking a "stupid" question if I didn't think I was going to get my ass kicked every time.

don't panic I think taking a step back is a good idea. I was doing the same thing myself -almost in a panic state to get it done - I can't be creative and stressed at the same time - have a tea or a beer and walk away. Look at magazines, drive around and look at other logos, google logos...

a different experience I have had some experience sitting with a customer to find out what they want but most of my experience is taking direction from a salesperson or project co-ordinator so I guess in that way most of the information gathering is done. I'm usually not in the position of...

posts by isign Thanks I got it - it's hard to believe the finished product started with that little "scribble" I do "scribbles" to a certain extent but I find I can develop things better on the computer. When/if you have a "dry spell" what do you use for inspiration? Oh, and thanks for...

thanks Thanks for the link - I particularly like this statement "Even in a little thing like a stick of gum, quality is important" illustrated the company's policy. William Wrigley, Jr., expanded these thoughts into brand building and advertising: "Tell 'em quick, and tell 'em often. You must...

Did you find your market or did it find you?

thanks everyone for their responses - It was quite an eye opener - another couple of things to add to already long list. Wetgravy - I assume this agreement is in writing do you also take the time to go over it verbally for first time clients - also is the deposit based on a percentage of the...

iSign - Last logo I posted here some of the designers I look up to mentioned that $500 was a "deal" or even a "steal' for my client Can you direct me to this post?

new thread is.... - getting paid for your work

This question was posed in the buying artwork thread - a few people thought it may be a worth while thread on it's own. If someone hires you to create "original" artwork for them and you can't seem to give them exactly what they want - when do you call it quits? How do you get...

how do i do that? [QUOTE= ...seriously.. I wish the second topic was it's own thread, because one thing you can count on is people tire of a conversation & this one has been going on long enough to have some people quit coming back. I agree it's long enough - I will start the new...

I'm so glad this turned out this way - I really needed a place to vent, and bitch and find ideas and solutions - and even get kicked a few times. Thanks to everyone for treating this in the spirit it was intended. It may even give the strength (balls) to start another thread someday:)

good point If you aren't capable of creating your logo yourself w/out using clip art, and are asking questions such as "what if I am hired to create some original art but can't give my client something they are happy with, how do I still get paid?" perhaps this isn't the business for you...

This thread has really taken a turn for the better - and I'm very happy about that - Many of you made good suggestions - I never thought about contacting students to see if any body had any "cool" ideas but I will keep it in mind for the next time. Since there is a college and a university...