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I'm also curious why i can't talk to you? Why are you sending someone else? Am i like, not worthy? Seriously -- what's the deal.

Bill let me help you understand my issue with all this. If you want to deny printing that's fine. We know you use your endorsed installers. Whatever. You are selling the product. You collect the money. You are the competition. I bid for a job, Original wraps bids for a job. in the...

I'm just asking because the guy who runs original wraps over there, Alex, told me you guys do indeed do printing in house, and this was about 3 weeks ago. The signature in his email is operations manager, so i believe him. So before you guys tell me stories, make sure your whole company has...

Hey Bill, I actually like you -- you respond. Very good. So are you telling me that 3M original wraps does literally ZERO printing? and that all your printing is outsourced to a printer of your choice? How about you contact me since you seem to have all the answers? I would love to talk to...

Hey Bill Brown, Once again all questions have been dodged, & once again you deny any printing. I know for a fact your lakewood, CO office prints graphics. That office is owned by original wraps, who is then owned by 3M. Do you think we're that daft? I can't really comprehend why you deny this. I...

lies

"Trying to decide on whether to pay by check or CC" is the most recent... I have over 18,000 outstanding in unpaid invoice for the past couple weeks... I think i'll spend tomorrow making phone calls.. thanks for the reminder.

these are all we use.. unless something is liquid laminated.. then they grip too much

Plans have been made Gino, trust me. This has nothing to do with volume. This has nothing to do with us fighting with each other. This is me and many other showing what is being done to our industry. Seriously i'd like to stay focused on the matter at hand. 3M is our competition and is...

this. Here in colorado during the winter there is tons of salt on the road. I tell them wash their car down when they get home every day in the winter to get the salt off. Also we strongly encourage them to use synthetic wax.

Sorry, Let me break it down for people who take longer to catch on to things. to me, it's low balling. to them, it's normal pricing. They don't feel it's cheap because they pay next to nothing for it. This causes the industry to become be devalued. Seriously, you have no idea what you're...

Very true. Oracal 3751 is far superior. It's great stuff. And sigange, i know you choose not to deal with wraps. that's fine. Yeah, they aren't stealing. They aren't low balling anything. They manufacture the product, and then sell it for next to nothing because they pay next to nothing. For...

that's dumb.

Wow if my previous paragraph offended you, you must be a hard person to have a conversation with. I was far from pissy.

never have hair in my lam

My dog comes to work with me every day. Customers love him. I left him home once with my wife, and he literally screamed at the door all day. He's a big dog too, about 90 lbs half boxer half pitbul

- Customer already has agreed price for wrapping his fleet of 10 vehicles with local, family owned sign shop. - Customer goes to dealership. - Customer goes to lease his 10 vehicles but is approached by 3M. 3M offers him a price i can't fathom offering.. but hey they can do that because...

cool story, no one is forcing you to read this. carry on.

I want them to stop going to dealerships and stealing my customers, how is that so hard to grasp. I don't care what they do with OW, sell it.. fine with me I was able to win bids against the old OW all day. 3M doesn't give us the opportunity to compete against it. The owners have no choice...

Of course you don't see it. I wouldn't expect those who think they aren't affected by it to see it.