A banner for this hoss!

[tulsagraphics]

Hi all!

I've got a customer who wants to hang a huge banner below this sign. Actual interior dimensions are about 44' x 16'. They're fine going a bit smaller for the banner, maybe 40 x 12.

We can do all the things -- pole pockets + conduit + notches + lots of tie downs. (client will be installing - he has the crew for that)

Question is... for a double-sided banner of this size that needs to last "as long as possible" (e.g. 1 year). What would be the best material? 18oz w/ slits (cringe, but might be useful for "this" application), or 2 single-sided mesh banners? I'd probably lean toward the 18oz w/ slits, and probably have them fashion weights in the bottom pole pocket, perhaps some spring loaded straps on the side so it could have "some" flexibility in strong winds.

Looking at this frame, I highly doubt we have to worry about its ability to withstand the extra wind load.

Thoughts?

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

I give it 4 hours before our winds rip it down.

 

[tulsagraphics]

Asking too much of a banner I guess. That’s fair. Maybe I should tell them to rent a semi to park under it. Strap banners to each side like they’ve since before. Not sure what a year of renting a trailer costs, but with these multimillion dollar properties, surely there’s there‘s some money to be spent.

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

I've seen dryvan trailers tip over when they're set out in a big field and used as a sign. Got to remember our winds can be 40-50mph all winter long, not to mention the storms in the spring. My big client uses connex and we put 10'x40' banners on it all day long. Your client can buy a decommissioned one for a couple grand and use sheet metal screws & washers to mount the banner directly to the side of it.

 

[ProSignTN]

Barely road worthy trailers sell for 3-4k around here. Just buy the trailer and resell it when your done.

 

[JBurton]

Sounds more like a billboard face.
But why a double sided banner instead of two single sided? Are you removing the existing metal face? I'd leave it and mount to it, it's obviously well secured and would take tons of load off the billboard/banner/what have yas.

 

[tulsagraphics]

Sounds more like a billboard face.
But why a double sided banner instead of two single sided? Are you removing the existing metal face? I'd leave it and mount to it, it's obviously well secured and would take tons of load off the billboard/banner/what have yas.

Whichever has the best chance of holding up -- if it's even possible. The banner(s), or trailer would fill the majority of the space beneath the main sign. I haven't given the customer any options yet, but their crews are used to all sorts of crazy installs. If shear wind load is the main issue, in terms of durability, what about (just hypothetically) using pole pockets / conduit and installing a row of vertical 12x4 banners with say, 6" in between banners?

 

[garyroy]

Can you screw/mount the banner to the existing sign that's there? Then it just becomes a bill board overlay.

 

[tulsagraphics]

Can you screw/mount the banner to the existing sign that's there? Then it just becomes a bill board overlay.

Nope, that's the company that's for sale. They want to advertise it.

 

[kcollinsdesign]

I would check the permitting requirements first.

 

[DL Signs]

I agree with others, banners won't cut it there, and wind slits don't do all that you think on something that size. Trailer is workable, but empty trailers tip easy in strong winds out in the open like that, so you'd have to anchor it if you went that route. For the cost of doing it any other way, why not just re-face the sign....

Paint it, letter it with vinyl, move their name up to give additional room, and put the extra info they want right on the existing face. It'll even be lit up, where a banner under it won't, and you won't have to worry about getting permits for adding anything, because you're just re-facing it. If they want to change any info in the future, just vinyl over it.

 

[tulsagraphics]

I agree with others, banners won't cut it there, and wind slits don't do all that you think on something that size. Trailer is workable, but empty trailers tip easy in strong winds out in the open like that, so you'd have to anchor it if you went that route. For the cost of doing it any other way, why not just re-face the sign....

Paint it, letter it with vinyl, move their name up to give additional room, and put the extra info they want right on the existing face. It'll even be lit up, where a banner under it won't, and you won't have to worry about getting permits for adding anything, because you're just re-facing it. If they want to change any info in the future, just vinyl over it.

I like it. Probably less headache than strapping down a trailer too. I'll run it by them. Thanks!

 

[JBurton]

I didn't read correctly that they want it below. In theory, you could put a pair of frames below the existing face and stretch billboards over it, but since it's sitting on the ground, you'd have a ton of wind load, but the structure could totally withstand it. The face on the other hand would get blown to bits monthly. I like DL's suggestion, or just framing a smaller section below for a billboard face with a backer panel if they insist on not covering the existing.