better dtf printer

[onlygraphics101]

i am humbly asking for your honest opinions which is a better dtf printer out of these two the degitech fabrica or the htvront 2 printer thx for any and all advise.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

Tons of DTF printers use the same hardware inside. Check to see what printheads it has, that can make a pretty big difference.

 

[onlygraphics101]

both are using the xp600 heads the digitech says its more industrial built but new to dtf and need all the advise i can get

 

[onlygraphics101]

The Digitech Fabrica DTF printer is an industrial-grade A3/12-inch model designed for startups, featuring Epson XP600 (or sometimes TX800) printheads for CMYK+WW color, max 1440dpi resolution, speeds around 3-5 sqm/hr or 9 mins/A3, and robust build with white ink circulation for printing on various fabrics via PET film transfers, using DTF inks

 

[onlygraphics101]

The Digitech Fabrica DTF printer is an industrial-grade A3/12-inch model designed for startups, featuring Epson XP600 (or sometimes TX800) printheads for CMYK+WW color, max 1440dpi resolution, speeds around 3-5 sqm/hr or 9 mins/A3, and robust build with white ink circulation for printing on various fabrics via PET film transfers, using DTF inks. Key specs include a roll-to-roll system, automatic powder shaker (often bundled), and compatibility with RIP software like Digit Color Map Pro.

Key Specifications

• Printhead: Epson XP600 (single or dual head options) or sometimes TX800.
• Print Width: ~12 inches (300mm).
• Max Resolution: 1440 x 720 dpi.
• Speed: Around 3-5 square meters/hour (or 9 mins for A3 size).
• Colors: CMYK + White (WW).
• Media: DTF PET Film (Roll-to-Roll).
• Ink Type: Textile DTF Pigment Ink.
• Automation: Automatic, often with integrated powder shaker (depending on bundle).
• Software: Uses RIP software, often Digit Color Map Pro.
• Features: White ink circulation system, vacuum bed, heavy-duty build.

 

[onlygraphics101]

or would i be better with a epson f2100 dtg printer and can i still print dtf with this printer

 

[victor bogdanov]

Epson G6070 - This is as easy as DTF is going to get. 5 minutes maintenance per week. 0 problems.

If you buy shaker directly from china you can be at around $17k all in



PM if you want some test prints

 

[hybriddesign]

Hi Victor,

I was wondering how those Epsons really run? I've got two of the Mimaki dual head units and for a while we were debating switching to the Epsons as the Mimakis were giving us a lot of issues. Overal the Mimakis are doing great now but I'm still curious about the Epsons and it's hard to find much feedback anywhere. Even our Epson dealer wouldn't really go into much detail on them. We have Epson dye sub and solvent printers already. Are they really as low maintenance as they advertise? We just bought a ROQ impress so we might be buying another DTF printer. We'll likely go with a 9 color but I'm not sure yet.

Thanks! Tai

 

[victor bogdanov]

Hi Victor,

I was wondering how those Epsons really run? I've got two of the Mimaki dual head units and for a while we were debating switching to the Epsons as the Mimakis were giving us a lot of issues. Overal the Mimakis are doing great now but I'm still curious about the Epsons and it's hard to find much feedback anywhere. Even our Epson dealer wouldn't really go into much detail on them. We have Epson dye sub and solvent printers already. Are they really as low maintenance as they advertise? We just bought a ROQ impress so we might be buying another DTF printer. We'll likely go with a 9 color but I'm not sure yet.

Thanks! Tai

It'll run just as easy as your other epsons.

I have 100k sq ft printed on mine.

All maintenance is automated except shake white ink daily, takes 30 seconds.

I've gone 5 days without printing /shaking ink over the holidays and resumed printing without a problem.

Doesn't get any easier

85 sq ft/ hr cmykw
176 sq ft / hr white only

Next day on site warranty also good to have. I got 5 year warranty, 0 worry

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

The Mimaki Dtf printers were a mistake, just took a JV150/300 and put different ink and more white channels in it. They're crazy problematic and the old 1440 heads are awful with DTF inks.

 

[victor bogdanov]

The Mimaki Dtf printers were a mistake, just took a JV150/300 and put different ink and more white channels in it. They're crazy problematic and the old 1440 heads are awful with DTF inks.

I was looking at the mimaki well before epson g6070 came out and after I saw that the heads looked similar to DX7 heads I said no thanks based on my white and metallic experience 10 years ago on Roland VS printer

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

The 1440/DX7 is also a terrible value these days compared to the i3200 series. As the name implies, 1440 versus 3200 nozzles. Higher native DPI, more coverage and less than half the cost. 180 nozzles per inch on the 1440 versus 300DPI on the i3200, and since the nozzles are protected instead of one big nozzle plate, way less delamination issues.

 

[victor bogdanov]

The 1440/DX7 is also a terrible value these days compared to the i3200 series. As the name implies, 1440 versus 3200 nozzles. Higher native DPI, more coverage and less than half the cost. 180 nozzles per inch on the 1440 versus 300DPI on the i3200, and since the nozzles are protected instead of one big nozzle plate, way less delamination issues.

and I think the G6070 has a better head than even the i3200, I remember seeing its 20-25% bigger, newer head although I haven't been able to find any specs.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

Epson makes a ton of heads, but they are selective at what they offer to OEMs. I think they learned to sell them when people crept cracking their controllers.

 

[MarkSnelling]

We haven't gone 'all-in' on the DTF printers, YET....but we have an introductory machine from Roland in stock pretty much by accident. Still in the box unopened. I'd jump on $7K for it. You can learn more by visiting: https://www.rolanddga.com/products/printers/versastudio-by-20

 

[Ewan yu]

Never choose an XP600 printhead.........................

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

When the XP600 was
$50 for a genuine new one, they were amazing. Now the supply chain has collapsed and the market is flooded with either cheap dodgy heads, or crazy expensive ones. Seeing prices creep into the $300+ range from reputable suppliers.

 

[Ewan yu]

I sell it at $275, which is very high for China.Most buyers go for the $150 ones.
The market is flooded with refurbished heads, and I’m honestly tired of explaining it so I really dislike XP600.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

No real way to tell if the refurbished heads are even electrically sound, so I have had instances where people have blown components with shorted heads they got from sketchy places like Amazon.

 

[victor bogdanov]

Here is a better printer coming out soon if you need faster








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