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Corel Forcing to Use New Files Only

CizreK

Graphic Designer & Print Production Manager
Has anyone had any issues with this and if so what kind of problems have occurred? I've been using Corel for over 25+ years and have always been a fan. I always get it installed anywhere I work.

After 2024 they did the update where you can not open new files with older versions. I have always been the type to keep a backlog of the programs. So I have a couple versions but usually will keep 2023, 2024, 2025, etc just in case.

Now they just released 2026 and it is saying you can not open a 2026 file in 2025. On paper this seems like you would not run into issues but since these companies like to be greedy and try to lock you into subscriptions that type of corruption will always lead to errors.

What kinds of issues has anyone had from this new 'feature' they have forced on us?
 

unclebun

Active Member
Corel Draw has always had it where files made with a newer version could not be opened with older versions. The same is true of pretty much any software. They have features in the newer versions which the older versions cannot interpret or use. This goes way back, much farther back before anyone even considered software as a subscription.

There is no point in using an older version if you have the newest, since older files WILL open in the newer version.
 
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CizreK

Graphic Designer & Print Production Manager
Corel Draw has always had it where files made with a newer version could not be opened with older versions. The same is true of pretty much any software. They have features in the newer versions which the older versions cannot interpret or use. This goes way back, much farther back before anyone even considered software as a subscription.

There is no point in using an older version if you have the newest, since older files WILL open in the newer version.
I disagree. Having multiple versions of a software can save you in many cases and they have for me a lot. Not just Corel. Every program. Updates can break things sometimes. Example is the 2026 version of Indesign was totally glitched out for me. I remain on 2025.
 

unclebun

Active Member
Well, you do you. Obviously if a version crashes or doesn't work, I would stay put until they fixed it. However if you install the new one and it works fine, there's no reason to continue using older versions.
 

CizreK

Graphic Designer & Print Production Manager
An example of having multi programs and saving multiple files is like. If you convert to the 2026 and then have issues with that version your old file is locked into 2026. I've had alot of crazy things happen to files. Sometimes a file can just self-destruct and new program updates can do that.
 

unclebun

Active Member
Your files would only be 2026 if you opened them and saved them as 2026 files in the 2026 version. In Corel Draw, you could open the file, choose Save As, and then select an older version to save the file as. Or you could use you backups to restore the older version of the file.
 
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pro-UP

Merchant Member
Has anyone had any issues with this and if so what kind of problems have occurred? I've been using Corel for over 25+ years and have always been a fan. I always get it installed anywhere I work.

After 2024 they did the update where you can not open new files with older versions. I have always been the type to keep a backlog of the programs. So I have a couple versions but usually will keep 2023, 2024, 2025, etc just in case.

Now they just released 2026 and it is saying you can not open a 2026 file in 2025. On paper this seems like you would not run into issues but since these companies like to be greedy and try to lock you into subscriptions that type of corruption will always lead to errors.

What kinds of issues has anyone had from this new 'feature' they have forced on us?
Have you worked on the website portal? The desktop has not been as reliable lately, so we switched to the online version. The one issue with the online version is needing to save frequently. We haven't had any issues with different file versions, but maybe this could help you.
 

John Miller

Some day everything gonna be different.... when I
Call up the file in 2026, export it to a PDF, open the PDF in any Corel you like and save it in that version. viola, now your file is whatever version you want.
 

Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
It's true older versions of CorelDRAW have never been able to open CDR files saved in a newer version format. However, the past few versions of CorelDRAW have not been able to open or import CDR files saved in version 5 or earlier. Some of us old timers have archived CDR files that date back that far. Meanwhile Adobe Illustrator can open AI and EPS files that date back to the late 1980's. Inkscape can import CDR files, even very old ones, but the import results are not all that great. Illustrator supposedly can import CorelDRAW CDR files, but only in versions 5 thru 10. The past few versions of CorelDRAW can down-save no farther back than version X5. This is another point where Illustrator beats Corel; you can down-save AI files in a range of Creative Suite versions as well as versions 10, 9, 8 and 3.

Another Corel-related problem: if you export an Adobe Illustrator .AI file from CorelDRAW and the file contains any live text objects it will not open in either Illustrator 2026 or 2025. An error box stating "Illustrator could partially open this file" will be displayed and then it will open a blank document. It takes having a working copy of Illustrator 2024 or earlier still installed to open the Corel-exported AI file, then re-save the AI file in that older version of Illustrator so it can open successfully in the newer version.
 

Ronny Axelsson

New Member
It's true older versions of CorelDRAW have never been able to open CDR files saved in a newer version format.
True, and for those working with multiple versions, it's been essential to use "Save As..." and select the earliest version in your environment to ensure it can be opened on all computers.

Corel has made it easier for us in the later versions (don't remember exactly but around version 2024) by allowing users to set the default version when saving.
In Options > CorelDRAW > Save, there is an option to choose default version (scroll down in the dialog to find it), and it goes all the way back to version 15.0.
Worth noting is that if you choose an old version, some newer effects might not be supported so they will be converted and can not be restored, so be careful.
 
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Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
Corel or Alludo needs to fix the problems revolving around opening old CDR files or saving CDR files down to earlier versions.

Any graphics application should be able to open its native files going back to version 1. CorelDRAW cuts off support at version 6. The file support cut-off used to be at version 3. What's to stop Corel from moving the goal posts again, cutting off file support at version 9 or 12 and on and on?

Right now, it's just long-time users of CorelDRAW who are getting penalized. But time marches on for everyone. Graphics people currently in their 20's will be surprised how quickly they wind up in their 40's or older. But they'll probably still have old art files and they'll probably still value those art files and want the ability to be able to open them if need be. Long term data preservation is a big effing deal.

Adobe sort of gets it, given Illustrator's AI and EPS formats are commonly used to move graphics elements between a variety of different graphics applications. The CDR format does not fit that bill. Very few applications outside CorelDRAW support the CDR format. While Illustrator can technically import CDR version 5-10 files the capability is useless for anyone using recent versions of CorelDRAW since they can save back only to version X5.

I'm not sure what to think regarding this latest issue of Illustrator 2025 & 2026 being unable to open Corel-saved AI files that contain live text objects. Illustrator 2024 can open such files (although the text objects come in with line spacing all screwed up). Something changed in these last couple versions of Illustrator. But it's also possible some of the code generated by Corel's Illustrator export filter is rife with garbage that Illustrator just doesn't like. You would think the people at Corel would probably test this stuff out, right?
 

CizreK

Graphic Designer & Print Production Manager
I have x6 saved due to the fact it was before subscriptions. 2022-2025 are good and I like alot of the new features but I only really use them at work. I can seat one 2024 at my house cuz my boss is ok with it. The guy before must of never had any issues but I have PTSD from things happening. There have been cases when you open a old file and it tells you to switch it to the newest version - it auto saves it - then you are basically screwed if your new software messes up because then you can not open it with the older versions. I've had this happen a handful of times. The reason I save and back up the way I do is because of these happenings. I guess some people are lucky? *shrugs* - I've encountered too many weird things that make me adjust my workflow to be safe. I love corel tho. It's lightyears better than Illustrator any day in my opinion. I just am not a fan of these newer moves they are making.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
Any graphics application should be able to open its native files going back to version 1.
No, this would depend. If there is a major rewrite of the code that would make that inherently buggy that isn't the case. There is a conversion process that goes on with Adobe, but not everything actually does translate even with current Adobe programs opening older files.

Your beloved text engine of Adobe's created an issue and for legacy text, they have to be converted if I recall correctly or they won't render. Symbols would be another area. Now, if one doesn't use those features or already have converted text (which is this is just archive, is probably the case, it may give the appearance of it being actually able to open and everything is jake, that isn't always necessarily the case). Even with the ability to open, not everything still translates due to re-writes. Brushes that aren't expanded could cause issues as well (I have a feeling a lot of people don't expand brushes as much (such as it is) as compared to those that convert text). And when one converts or expands, that actually loses the value of saving in the master proprietary file format.

To expect everything to still be the same even after major re-writes of software, that's just not feasible. The PDF option helps, but even somethings written in legacy versions are rasterized when opened in the newer versions. Which is ok if nothing has changed and just need to print and forget about it. There is also chances of file corruption issues. Now, one may never have experienced that at all, doesn't mean that the risks aren't there when trying to open the native proprietary format of legacy versions.

Just being able to open a legacy proprietary formats if one can't pick right back up where they left off as if nothing happened isn't the flex that one might think that it is. And being able to pick up right where one left and edit what came before and add to it.
 

Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
CizreK said:
I have x6 saved due to the fact it was before subscriptions. 2022-2025 are good and I like alot of the new features but I only really use them at work. I can seat one 2024 at my house cuz my boss is ok with it.

When I open CDR files in CorelDRAW the application does not automatically re-save them. I'd be really pissed if it did that. When I do save CDR files I usually save them down to earlier version 24 format or version X8. It depends on what's in the file. If there is any live text and it is set in variable fonts I have to choose v24 or later.

I have used Illustrator and CorelDRAW alongside each other for over 30 years. They both have their unique strengths and weaknesses. I can point out specific things where Illustrator is way better than CorelDRAW and vice versa.

WildWestDesigns said:
No, this would depend.

If the company selling the application is going to fuck its customers by taking away access to some or all of their work files by virtue of installing a new version then that new version of their application is not worth buying. Regarding the excuse of re-writing code or whatever, my response to that is Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs playing the world's smallest violin. I don't care. They need to develop an import filter or something. Also, there is a huge difference between an application opening old files and not doing it perfectly versus just not opening the files at all.
 
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WildWestDesigns

Active Member
When I open CDR files in CorelDRAW the application does not automatically re-save them. I'd be really pissed if it did that. When I do save CDR files I usually save them down to earlier version 24 format or version X8. It depends on what's in the file. If there is any live text and it is set in variable fonts I have to choose v24 or later.

Most don't do that, but the problem comes from opening them, not necessarily with the saving part. Corruption of files can happen on opening them, changing brushes/effects that aren't done the same way, have to be changed in order to render them. Even then, when saving and saving to that old outdated format, one still has to respect the limitations of that legacy format, text is only one of those (as far as Ai goes). How things were done before when that format wasn't legacy are not how the file is going to be saved even when saved back to the legacy format. Sometimes, that even means rasterization when before it would have still been a vector.

I have used Illustrator and CorelDRAW alongside each other for over 30 years. They both have their unique strengths and weaknesses. I can point out specific things where Illustrator is way better than CorelDRAW and vice versa.
Irrevelent to our discussion as I wasn't doing a "measuring contest" between the two. I had started with Ai back in 94, hardly used Corel. It came with my embroidery software towards the end, installed x5, used it for a bit, got rid of it. Didn't care for it.

If the company selling the application is going to fuck its customers by taking away access to some or all of their work files by virtue of installing a new version then that new version of their application is not worth buying.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA. And yet some are on here on subscription programs and once one stops paying, oops, no access to what they have done, at least not using said vendor (and that's important when talking about proprietary vendor file reading). And how is that different? They have a corner of the market (real or perceived, they have a corner on it) and they are able to get away with more compared to someone like you or I would be able to in our business.

Features, we have seen Adobe remove things that people liked/used as well. Ooops, sorry, gone. It happens. That's actually an argument to keep on running legacy software as well (something that we can't do as easily in this SaaS age as well), even though dependencies can get one and make things hard when running multiple versions of the same program on the same machine.

Regarding the excuse of re-writing code or whatever, my response to that is Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs playing the world's smallest violin. I don't care. They need to develop an import filter or something. Also, there is a huge difference between an application opening old files and not doing it perfectly versus just not opening the files at all.
Regardless if you care or not (which you should, because when doing re-writes and trying to also meet outlandish requests from users that really don't know what they are asking, could lead to bad UX, which still can bite them in the butt). If the format is geared from ground up for legacy and not breaking legacy files, that's one thing (but even that hasn't turned out well, because things that you would like to do, may not do them, because they break legacy or if they are done, it's not quite a robust as it could have been if not worrying about legacy), but typically application files are not. Especially proprietary ones. Their main goal is to keep people buying the latest, that is their main goal. And after 40 yrs, it's harder and harder to entice people to buy one offs (which has lead to SaaS). If they actually did a full re-write and take advantage of all of the new abilities especially of even the latest C++ features, could actually make a far more robust program, but that as it's own risks, but I digress). Want to talk about breaking legacy as well. See regardless if you care about it or not, it will still affect you and the product that you use to make money with, that alone should make it worth your caring.

However, what exactly is the plus side of being opening files at any point, if it can't do things 1:1? If willing to accept that, even with the loss of data, should have just saved it in a more "universal" format (and yes there is data loss there as well, but since there is data loss regardless, it doesn't matter at that point) and it wouldn't matter if the latest version of the original program could open it or not.

However, I will leave you with this one little bit of EULA (you know the document that most don't read) and that is:

"DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES: YOU AGREE THAT ADOBE HAS MADE NO EXPRESS WARRANTIES TO YOU REGARDING THE SOFTWARE AND THAT THE SOFTWARE IS BEING PROVIDED TO YOU "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. ADOBE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE; EXPRESS OR IMPLIED; INCLUDING; WITHOUT LIMITATION; ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE; MERCHANTABILITY; MERCHANTABLE QUALITY OR NONINFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS. Some states or jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion of implied warranties; so the above limitations may not apply to you."

I'm unaware of any commercial software that doesn't have that disclaimer in some form.
 
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