Help with a printers and vibrant colors and prints

[altereddezignz]

We print on a Mutoh 1324 and have for some time now. I have been watching videos online and have been looking at a lot of the vibrant colors these people are getting from printers. Some say latex and some say solvent but no names area really ever given. I am looking into what printer or printers will give brighter greens, oranges and pinks and so on like the images i have attached. No i know i may never get this but something is printing them bc they are being done lol.. These are not overlays but they are actual digital printed wraps.

 

[Correct Color]

Profiled correctly, and in a proper color workflow, any of the printers you've mentioned are capable of printing the graphics in the images you posted. None of those colors are out of gamut for any latex or eco-solvent machine.

With poor profiles and a bad color workflow, however, none of them are.

(Only exception in your question would be specifically oranges. If you want to get colors such as Home Depot Orange or KTM Orange or Pantone 021, you have to have a machine with orange in the inkset.)

 

[altereddezignz]

Profiled correctly, and in a proper color workflow, any of the printers you've mentioned are capable of printing the graphics in the images you posted. None of those colors are out of gamut for any latex or eco-solvent machine.

With poor profiles and a bad color workflow, however, none of them are.

(Only exception in your question would be specifically oranges. If you want to get colors such as Home Depot Orange or KTM Orange or Pantone 021, you have to have a machine with orange in the inkset.)

Thank you for your reply. All of our equipment was purchased used and it had set for a very long time. So if you have seen any of my other posts you can see that i had to pretty much rebuild the mutoh we have now. All the profiles we have are from manufactures of the material or from Value jet them selves or from other shops that use the mutoh. I think we still have underlying head issues that cause me issues as well. This is the reason we are looking at new machines.

 

[GaSouthpaw]

I have never understood why shops that claim to specialize in printing don't do things correctly.
If your shop has a printer, a spectrophotometer is a must-have tool. If you are relying strictly on the manufacturer profiles, you are doing your customers a disservice, so proper media profiling is also a must.
Sure, you might get lucky for a while and get the vibrancy and proper colors you're looking for but- eventually- those profiles will become obsolete in regards to your particular machine.
Please note OP, I am not picking on you, I'm just making an observation.
I, too, have worked in shops that do the same thing (buying used equipment and expecting nearly impossible results, not maintaining equipment properly, etc. I have argued- unsuccessfully- with former employers regarding the necessity of the proper tools to achieve the results they wanted. And this issue is one of the reasons why these are former employers (though not the only one, for sure).
Thankfully, the company I'm with now is serious about colors, color matching, and quality- and has the necessary equipment. We also do daily maintenance and try to keep the shop in proper condition with daily cleaning.
Most any printer can give great results, if it's set up and run properly.
(Except the orange thing. Yeah, oranges are a pain!)

 

[ChicagoGraphics]

As mentioned above, color management software is what you need.

 

[Correct Color]

Okay, but...

Note that I didn't exactly say color management "software" is what was needed.

Many times, getting color management software when you need color management help is very much akin to getting a lawbook when what you need is a lawyer.

 

[altereddezignz]

Thanks for the reply's everyone. I am not saying that i dont need color help or even the software. I was just saying that right now i have to correct in the design to make up for a head that does not function at 100% I do not get to control the money so i cant say what is bought and what is not. Now i do have a big deal of input but do not have the final say. I do know tho that there are local shows that have all different types of printers yet the work all looks different when it comes to colors. This is the reason i asked the question. It was more along the lines of what printers would output the larges color gamut with vivid colors.

I would think not all printers are created equal bc there is not one made that is perfect lol..