Anyone know any good high temperature material? Either for die-cutting or eco-sol inks? The highest stuff I carry is good for about 225F but have customers all the time requesting stuff for 300F+. Can't seem to find anything that hot except for material for like small roll labels.
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High temperature materail?
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Michael-Nola
I print things. It is very exciting.
I use lots of High Temp materials over 300 F, however most of it is proprietary stuff since it's a niche market. Can you tell me what end use applications you are targeting?
I can tell you vinyl is out obviously, you'll be sticking to high temp substrates like polyster, HDPE, LLDPE, polycarb, metalized, etc. You will also need to mate with a high temp adhesive as well since most of these products can be bought at industrial prices without adhesive.
Companies like 3M have specific industrial divisions that handle these types of products, however you must buy by the master roll (usually starts at 54"x1668ft). I have also found that you really need to seek out these products specifically, as they don't really "advertise" them or recommend them in any conventional sense.
Since the materials are just as diverse as vinyl and you must purchase by master rolls, I really only carry a few options in inventory and if their end use calls for or if they make a special materials request - they have to purchase the whole roll.
I can tell you vinyl is out obviously, you'll be sticking to high temp substrates like polyster, HDPE, LLDPE, polycarb, metalized, etc. You will also need to mate with a high temp adhesive as well since most of these products can be bought at industrial prices without adhesive.
Companies like 3M have specific industrial divisions that handle these types of products, however you must buy by the master roll (usually starts at 54"x1668ft). I have also found that you really need to seek out these products specifically, as they don't really "advertise" them or recommend them in any conventional sense.
Since the materials are just as diverse as vinyl and you must purchase by master rolls, I really only carry a few options in inventory and if their end use calls for or if they make a special materials request - they have to purchase the whole roll.
It's really had to say for sure what customers are using them for but most common are BBQ grills, motorcycle exhaust and decals under car hoods. Normally they are pretty small jobs but I rank high for a search term that brings a lot of inquiries to me. Just hate to turn away business when someone needs something we can't offer.
Michael-Nola
I print things. It is very exciting.
Individual applications vary of course, but I can tell you the broad rules. For high temp applications up to 350 deg F, polyester is your easy product. Most polyesters have 0 shrinkage and have a service temp rated for up to 300 deg. You will also have to use a polyester laminate, or underprint and add an acrylic adhesive. Alternatively, you will find the best durability for these applications are to screen print and clearcoat - that way you don't have to deal with the laminate as an added durability component.
Over 350, you're getting into nameplates. Chemically etched nameplates come in various metals, colors, and with options. I can't do those in house, and they're very pricey.
For things like BBQ grills, if you wanted to make them as a printer I'd print on stainless steel and clearcoat. The stainless doesn't conduct heat well and the ink should be fine up to 400-500 which is hotter than what the plate will get. The "real" way to do it would be to chemically etch.
Exhausts ... well those get over 1000 deg. The only option is chemical etching, and I'm not sure what the max service temp is on those lol. You'd have to talk to someone that makes those products.
But long story short, if a customer is looking for a cheap easy "sticker" for their very high temp application ... that doesn't really exist because it's an industrial product. If you want to sell it I would just push them to the polyester and tell them it's good up to 350 ... the rest is on them!
Over 350, you're getting into nameplates. Chemically etched nameplates come in various metals, colors, and with options. I can't do those in house, and they're very pricey.
For things like BBQ grills, if you wanted to make them as a printer I'd print on stainless steel and clearcoat. The stainless doesn't conduct heat well and the ink should be fine up to 400-500 which is hotter than what the plate will get. The "real" way to do it would be to chemically etch.
Exhausts ... well those get over 1000 deg. The only option is chemical etching, and I'm not sure what the max service temp is on those lol. You'd have to talk to someone that makes those products.
But long story short, if a customer is looking for a cheap easy "sticker" for their very high temp application ... that doesn't really exist because it's an industrial product. If you want to sell it I would just push them to the polyester and tell them it's good up to 350 ... the rest is on them!