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So you want "me" to install "this" POS?

tulsagraphics

New Member
A customer calls me up and first asks if I'm licensed and if I can install a sign for a new vape shop. Customer is in a big hurry, so I met him tonight. Not sure why the job was so urgent, but figured... what the hell. I'll meet ya.

So I come over to check out this 20 ft (3 section) sign. Where did you get this? Customer says "China".

Oh hell no...
[Ready to walk out the door -- but instead I start inspecting the sign -- mostly curious to see how bad it really was]

This is beside the point, but mildly interesting: Meanwhile he proceeds to tell me that he's tired of living in his car and needs to make money fast. [thinking to myself, so why did you pick one of the most expensive strip malls around, where nearly all small shops die within months?] (hint: last checked almost $25/sq.ft./year)


What is this glue and tape job shit? Flimsy raceway, multiple acrylic panels are just falling off because they're held together with sticky pads and the occasional glob of silicone... How much did you pay for this sign? [he shows me the invoice] Nearly $6,000 after shipping.

Wow. Just wow. That's one expensive paperweight! It doesn't take a genius to know that it's not safe to install, let alone power up.

What do you tell a customer when you see this kind of B.S.? Too bad, and good luck finding someone else? Or could this hot mess be salvaged by a U.L. Certified shop? My guess is "no", but even if it can, it would probably cost another $3k to do so, maybe more.
It sucks having to tell a customer they need to buy another sign, but from what I'm seeing (and I'm no expert), this thing isn't good for much more than an interior, non-illuminated sign.

Thoughts?
 

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GAC05

Quit buggin' me
Ouch,
I'd tell him to get some more of that clear packing tape they used to secure the wire runs and use it to tape it up against his display windows.
I hope this didn't come from the shop in China that is always making fun of the alphabet people on social media.
 
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ChaseO

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I feel bad for the customer, but if he is living in his car, how fast is he going to pay you after you do the job? If a letter doesn't light up, its going to be your fault too.
 
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tulsagraphics

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We know the likelihood of him buying a new sign is basically zero -- but is it worth offering to gut the power supplies and main wires, fasten the piss out of all those loose panels and install it as a non-illuminated sign? Or better just to walk away?
(I'm just thinking -- risk wise -- if him or some other jack hole tried to wire it up themselves -- and something goes wrong -- they somehow point the finger at me)
 
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Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
I feel bad for the customer, but if he is living in his car, how fast is he going to pay you after you do the job? If a letter doesn't light up, its going to be your fault too.
THIS! ....I'd walk away.
 
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CanuckSigns

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Walk away, not worth it. If anything happens during or after the sign, he will perceive it as your fault, and as someone else mentioned, this guy is living in his car and looking to make "Quick money" which means that right now he has no money, how is he going to pay you?
 
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Johnny Best

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Screw it to the wall with some big washers and get paid, then take your new boyfriend out for pizza.
 
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garyroy

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Why can't he hire the guy from China to come over and install it also? It would probably cost less than $6000.
Round trip ticket $2500, hotel for 1 night $350, meals $200, hire a bucket truck for a day $1200. Yeah, that's less than 6K.
 
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Ewan yu

www.printersign.com--Printhead,parts,supplier
The cost of this quality is roughly around 600–800 RMB, which is less than $150 USD. But he sold it for $6,000.
I’m really curious what kind of sales tricks or strategies he used to sell his product....
 
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Eforcer

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We know the likelihood of him buying a new sign is basically zero -- but is it worth offering to gut the power supplies and main wires, fasten the piss out of all those loose panels and install it as a non-illuminated sign? Or better just to walk away?
(I'm just thinking -- risk wise -- if him or some other jack hole tried to wire it up themselves -- and something goes wrong -- they somehow point the finger at me)
NON illuminated - PERFECT!
 

tulsagraphics

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You guys didn't tell me that getting UL Certification was so easy! :roflmao:

Of course this guy will never change my mind, but I am enjoying his humorous attempts. ha!
 

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