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worst than canva.....

WildWestDesigns

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I was retired once, and back, starting to think I'm too old for all this new stupidity they pass off as intelligence.
While convenience has gotten better, we have lost the knowledge of what is being abstracted. Even with computers in general, most kids don't know about file hierarchy, most are used to have things auto save and not only that, save in the cloud. And they have only known tech (problem is most didn't grow up while the tech was growing up as well). And that's just the milder stuff.

With what passes for "AI" (and it's not really "AI", but that's just marketing for the normies) is this on steroids. Even people that know what it's abstracting, still have a problem and are less efficient (studies have already come out on this since this stuff has been out for awhile).

Just more of the downward spiral.

I'm just glad that when I was growing up, people still had to know what was what (and still had to have talent/skill to make it happen) and it was before computers first, analog second. Now don't mistake this as someone that thinks we all should be doing things analog/old school every single time, but it's that knowledge that is lost with high level tech abstractions that is lost that this is more of a concern over. I used to think see what happens with the 3rd/4th generation of users of what passes for "AI", but it doesn't even look like it's going to be that long of a wait. Will it get better, I wouldn't be surprised, but that would be even more of a concern of that lost knowledge.
 

Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
The AI stuff is a pain in the ass to deal with. It may be okay for one-off print-only jobs. But if you need clean artwork with work-able elements the AI-generated stuff is just garbage. All of it is based on pixel-based sources. Even the "text to vector" functions in Adobe Illustrator start with a pixel-based image and then is auto-traced into vector form. You're not going to get the same exact result from a text prompt each time either. It's like playing a slot machine. 3 purely random options pop into view.

AI is particularly bad for use in logo/branding design. It might be okay to use in the ideation phase for brain-storming. But the text prompts will not generate clean, consistent results every time. You might be able to get a decent starting point, but then you have to clean it up and refine it afterward.

I'm sure plenty of folks will churn out a lot of crap with these AI tools though. Good enough to barely get by is the quality standard for more than a few cut-rate shops as well as customers wanting to get something for nothing. Race to the bottom economics.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
AI is particularly bad for use in logo/branding design. It might be okay to use in the ideation phase for brain-storming. But the text prompts will not generate clean, consistent results every time. You might be able to get a decent starting point, but then you have to clean it up and refine it afterward.

Considering people use the 90s/00s wonky clipart for branding even today, I wouldn't be surprised if the 1st pull was the one that they went with. Of course, this is just the technical concern, there are legal implications with trying to use "AI" generated stuff for branding and other IP works. I'm sure some of that will change when special interest groups get more involved though.

I'm sure plenty of folks will churn out a lot of crap with these AI tools though. Good enough to barely get by is the quality standard for more than a few cut-rate shops as well as customers wanting to get something for nothing. Race to the bottom economics.

I often wonder if it's actually a function of just purely race to the bottom or just ignorance and trapped with the tools that they use. Like with anything, if people only know/grown up with this high level abstraction, they don't know any better. What it spits out is what they think should be good enough and this seems to be on overdrive with "AI" (which it really isn't "AI", but I digress).

The reason why I have avoided the more automated tools of Adobe, Wilcom et all (when I used them) is the same reason why I have been avoiding "AI". It takes more time for me to correct, compared to just having started off doing it myself. That and the fact that I would like to keep my creativity as sharp for as long as I can. The ole noggin gets slower as one gets older, start offloading too much somewhere else (or especially if one is doing it from the getgo early on like the up and coming generations), it doesn't get better and more likely have to depend more and more on that thing (whatever it may be) for help.
 
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