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I'm using this to do a lot of practicing, here are some other renditions

here ya go

thank you , it does make it look better

Very cool thank you. I was told that you should always make a logo that can be done in black and white, so I have avoided gradients and shaded highlight. Is that true?

Where have I been claiming to know better? I have thanked everyone repeatedly . I have not lied about anything, I have formally apologized for my first post. I have sent private apologies to some. I'm not sure what you think I'm copying. I'm sorry you don't like me , but I think your making a...

I put in some reliefs, does that help?

better or worse?

+1 Without a real reference I could draw "design" some of the parts I do. Bringing parts from the 1950's into today's standards is a challenge. A lot of the parts do not even have a blueprint anymore and have to be drawn up within .001 tolerance. I think this is a form of art personally...

Thank you, I see it now, I will work to improve on that. I'm going to use an arrow while I design to remind me of where the light is. good tips

I darkened the banner and simplified it some, I think i like it better,

amen

Thank you Joe, eight38signco, Deaton Design, ForgeInc, and everyone else, I appreciate the advice and encouragement. I truly love this industry and work on it more hours than I should everyday. Even the negative feedback is making me better, so I appreciate that too.

I posted a pic of the hand drawn tiger you spoke of. It may not be good, I may not be a great artist like you, but I'm doing the best I can and I'm here to try and get better. I considering drawing with a stylus a form of art just like a pencil. I don't feel the need to convince you of...

copying what?

First was done by Broken Arrow Wear, in Des Moines Second was by me

Good point, I'm going to change that

no just a hammer, based on this kind

No clipart, I drew it all. No way I'm ever using clipart again and posting on here. lol I can still tweak it, I just meant the customer likes it.

Here is the old one and the new one they just approved

I'm in DeSoto,IA nice to have you here