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Anybody using any third party 3D text software that can be used in conjunction with Photoshop? I know that Photoshop *Extended* version has this capability, but it seems pricey, even for an upgrade. What other good alternatives are there out there. Also, curious if any has the ability to...

Thanks, JS..... I DO have that font!

Adjusted kerning on originals..... and gave him another batch with heavier font for McDaniels, different 'rays', and swapped out the 'and' for an ampersand. I kinda liked 'Tiki's' McDaniels font.... but couldn't find it... what is that? Sent it to client for review....

Nice job John Butto - a clever solution heading in the right direction.

LOL.... thanks Dan - just having a a little fun. Love you stuff - inspirational! Have an excellent day... and thanks for your advice the other day too! :thumb:

Thanks! The original 'cloud' came from the prior owner and I don't think it had anything to do with his religious affiliation. I'll have to ask him the significance of that - and in fact, should have in the first place. Thanks again!

I was thinking that having the 'Kitchen and Bath' semi-sized kerning would allow better legibility at a distance - don't make me look for examples where you used very wide open kerning..... haha! But I do like the McDaniels tightened up as someone posted above. Thanks for the...

Thanks Dan - excellent information. I appreciate your input. I'll have to do a little brainstorming to see what kind of 'branding' tie-in image I can come up with. As I mentioned above, the hard part for me is the fact that they do so many different things... that I become confused as to...

Vis.... the client is a very devout Christian man... so the Sunday School theme would be a +. :-)

Keith - thanks for the suggestions.... I have to take into account what Dan and you suggested as far as adding another 'specific' visual element.... just not sure how to do that exactly with the wide array of services they offer....

Tiki - I like what you have done there! I will throw him a few extra versions with your suggestions of different/ bolder type face included... and the option of a larger, more encompassing cloud. Thanks!

Good question. All I can tell you is that this local company has had their ugly 'marshmellow' cloud logo for somewhere around 40+ years and the local and surrounding communities have come to 'relate' it to their business. They sell much more than just kitchen and bath now..... and if it were...

Phototec - I am in 100% agreement with what you have shown - the tightened kerning makes good visual sense. Thank you for that! I hope people realize that when someone posts a design asking for a review and feedback, and then don't implement each suggestion offered - it does NOT mean that the...

LOL.... c'mon John. I'm sure you're a very nice guy. I apologize for taking issue with your insults... I should have let them slide. Let's start over with a clean slate. Shall we cyber-shake to make it official?

I think you meant to say 'thin' skin. I am always happy to take advice from people I respect and/or those that put forth suggestions that have merit - which many kind folks supplied me with in this thread. I obviously hurt your feelings. My apologies. Thanks for your input.

John - no need to be a rude jackass. If you like the marshmellow cloud better, well.... that speaks volumes.

Jon - 'niels' was not modified at all in relation to the rest of the 'McDan' letters.... so I am assuming that they are all pretty much the same - as they were typed out.

Yes indeed. Thank you. :smile:

Thanks! There seem to be a lot of requests to dump the lower case/small 'and'...... so I will have to address that! Thanks again.

Hi all - and thank you for your many comments and suggestions. Dan - their decades old radio 'jingle'... which is song put together by some musical marketing company, sings out: ♫♪ McDaniels, Kitchen and Bath... ♫♪ And it is spelled out as "a-n-d" as part of all their communication. Client...