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Getting a college education does not stop you from working in a trade, like myself and many others on here have done. Not having a college degree can keep you from getting a managerial or other higher up position though. As a business owner, would you prefer to hire a young welder that has an...

What proves your point? Because people that had no plan or path before college come out and still have no plan or path? In what way does that make college a bad move? Before they had limited choices and after they have a few more choices but still self limited. I still don't get your point...

We were talking about college, not public schools. Extra remedial classes also disproves what you said earlier, if things are getting easier, then why is there a need for any remedial classes let alone more. Id also like to see what college actually has something called remedial math. That's...

You're kind of going down the rabbit hole here for the sake of an argument. I don't know where you went to school but a credit hour is a credit hour in terms of cost. Could be dance class or could be physics. When I say cheaper school I am talking state schools and community colleges which...

Doesn't mean your grandfather would have done any better. A bad hire doesn't bolster the anti-college stance one bit.

You're assuming it isn't. And it is. There is no evidence to support what you said there.

When I went, the slackers would generally get the boot because their grades would be too low. They'd either move home or apply to the community college so they could still fuck off, party and do the things that got them kicked out to begin with. My roommate was one of them. He got kicked out...

You don't have to take out student loans. Here is a great concept, go to a less expensive school, live cheap and get a job to cover your expenses. Until you get up to grad level stuff classes don't take up much more than a few hours a day.

Agreed but that is individual, not the system.

My step father has a degree in music, pretty useless degree. He was a heavy equipment mechanic and welder into his 40s, money was tight, he worked 2 jobs and it was got more physically difficult as time went on. He was on a jobsite and approached about a position with an equipment manufacturer...

I also disagree with this and so do many employers. You could say that work isn't for everyone, or this job isn't for everyone but I would argue that this mindset is a large reason why employers have so many issues with employees today. College, like work, is for everyone. It is rigid and is...

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I never said it did. I also do not agree 1 bit that college, or any form of education or learning is ever a poor choice. You cite your son but he got an education in the Navy. Money does not equate to anything in my eyes. Glad he makes more than his father but who cares? Fact is, not having...

Election signs feed the politicians ego. They love seeing their name and hearing themselves talk. It would not hurt my feelings one bit if they did away with it.

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Nice saw.

Hey boss, thanks for the new blade, I cut up all the old pallets like you wanted.

Hope she is ok

some parents are just like that and have no excuse for it. Helping the kid out was the nice thing to do.