Need Help 5 layer sandwich mode printing

[ChaseS]

Hey all,
I just got a HP 800w this last week. I've been messing around with the 5 layer print mode on Onyx Thrive 21 but I am having some issues. I can get it to work with the same imaged reversed on either side but my customer wants a different image on each side for a double sided window cling. Has anyone gotten this to work?

 

[balstestrat]

It's possible for sure. Prepare your images to final size etc. before importing to onyx and avoid doing any changes. Both images must match exactly 1:1 with each other.

Page 39.

 

[netsol]

interesting...
so i can't center a DIFFERENT IMAGE of a different size on one side?

i can see where the possibility to mirror when you do color-white-color by why can't you have two different size images on each side of a 2 sided sign?

seems odd to me

 

[ChaseS]

I suppose you could do 2 different size images. Just make their artboards the same size when you set it up and leave the one image whatever size you want on the larger artboard.

 

[balstestrat]

interesting...
so i can't center a DIFFERENT IMAGE of a different size on one side?

i can see where the possibility to mirror when you do color-white-color by why can't you have two different size images on each side of a 2 sided sign?

seems odd to me

It's just a limitation of the driver and RIP. Part of the process for two sided is handled on the RIP and part on the printer. Apparently it's too complicated and costly to add all the normal features to that (just for two printer models).

But like said, make everything ready first in editor and just hit print in RIP. You can do pretty much what you want, just not in the RIP.

 

[P Wagner]

interesting...
so i can't center a DIFFERENT IMAGE of a different size on one side?

i can see where the possibility to mirror when you do color-white-color by why can't you have two different size images on each side of a 2 sided sign?

seems odd to me

You can (and almost always would) have different images with 5-layer opaque printing.

If they are not the same size, the blockout black layer from the larger side would be visible when viewed from the smaller side. Not a desirable visual.

 

[balstestrat]

You can (and almost always would) have different images with 5-layer opaque printing.

If they are not the same size, the blockout black layer from the larger side would be visible when viewed from the smaller side. Not a desirable visual.

It would be white not black.

 

[netsol]

You can (and almost always would) have different images with 5-layer opaque printing.

If they are not the same size, the blockout black layer from the larger side would be visible when viewed from the smaller side. Not a desirable visual.

sure, i understand that

 

[P Wagner]

It would be white not black.

Point taken. Regardless of the color, it is not something that would be desirable.

 

[ChaseS]

For anyone watching this thread, the walk through in the paperwork unfortunately was still not working for me on the 123p 5 layer sandwich mode. I did finally get it to work by selecting "User Select at Print Time". The file option would let me choose another file, but it never wanted to use that selected file.