Question Avery 1060 Laminate on Outdoor signs?

[Erin Smith]

I was told I can use Avery 1060 laminate for all my outdoor max metal signs. However, I am noticing the laminate has lines going through it (cold application) and figure prints from moving the substrate are really noticeable. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong or should i be using a different laminate for outdoor signs? We use 1060 for all vehicle wraps and have no issue with it.

 

[MikePro]

1060 should be just fine, but i'm more of a satin>luster>matte>gloss kinda guy.
grimco's wrapcast overlam is half the price, highly recommend. we use it on everything we put outdoors that intents to last more than a cpl years.

 

[MarkSnelling]

I can't explain the streaks and finger prints....but i can tell you we have 5 and 7 year calendared laminates under $300/roll which will perform as well on a flat surface like this.

 

[Modern Ink Signs]

I can't explain the streaks and finger prints....but i can tell you we have 5 and 7 year calendared laminates under $300/roll which will perform as well on a flat surface like this.

Cal lams shrink more than cast lams. Why would someone take that chance?! I’ve found that cutting “corners” is NOT the way to go about it.

Sure it costs less. What $10-$20 over on a 4x8 sign. Why?

Just my (educated) opinion and how I run my shop.

 

[Rmurray321]

1060 should be just fine, but i'm more of a satin>luster>matte>gloss kinda guy.
grimco's wrapcast overlam is half the price, highly recommend. we use it on everything we put outdoors that intents to last more than a cpl years.

I’ve been using their wrapcast for a bit now and I quite enjoy it for flat signage too. Not a bad price per roll and I have heard that it’s an Arlon product…although I’m not sure which one.

I’m also a fan of matte over gloss for indoor, but outdoor I do gloss since it’s a bit easier to keep clean

 

[crashaffinity]

I was told I can use Avery 1060 laminate for all my outdoor max metal signs. However, I am noticing the laminate has lines going through it (cold application) and figure prints from moving the substrate are really noticeable. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong or should i be using a different laminate for outdoor signs? We use 1060 for all vehicle wraps and have no issue with it.

those lines usually disappear after a few days

 

[MarkSnelling]

Cal lams shrink more than cast lams. Why would someone take that chance?! I’ve found that cutting “corners” is NOT the way to go about it.

Sure it costs less. What $10-$20 over on a 4x8 sign. Why?

Just my (educated) opinion and how I run my shop.

Monomeric calendared films shrink...polymeric (5-7 year films) are much more stable. Over a 4x8 sheet you might see shrinkage of around 1/32". The polymeric films don't just cost less....they cost about half of the cast and when used on flat applications, they perform the same. I usually see people paying around $575 for the 1060 when you could be paying $266 for a polymeric. Saving over $300 for a single roll...those are real dollars.

There's nothing wrong with using a cast....it will absolutely work....

I'm genuinely just having fun here with this point - the vast majority of our industry will fight with me over my competitor being $5/roll cheaper on a comparable product but when I show them how to save over $300 then they'll ask me "yeah but do I get free shipping?".