Can not initiate printer do to Microsoft Edge

[Andrew Trykowski]

Guys what is this now with microsoft edge not allowing add printers into Versaworks....
Comeon Roland you can do better than that, man I hate microsoft...

I just reinstalled versa on windows 10 trying to add VSI ,versa recognizes the device and the ip, tries to add the printer and will not go past this screen, what does Microsoft Edge got to do with configuring my printer...
Seams like GATES sticks his nose in every corner of every device...

anyone has had something similar happening ?, I also for some reason can not run Versa by simply clicking on it, I have to launch it each time in administrator mode...

anyone pls and thank you !

 

[Solventinkjet]

Microsoft Edge has a function called, Microsoft Edge WebView2, that renders certain UI elements in windows. So Versaworks is trying to use that to render something, most likely a pop up window or something like that, and it's failing. Either you're logged in as a user who doesn't have access to that file or it's broken. The fact that it still doesn't work even in administrator mode, it's more likely that the Microsoft Edge WebView2 is broken. In that case, you can try downloading and repairing that function here: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/?form=MA13LH

 

[WildWestDesigns]

Microsoft Edge has a function called, Microsoft Edge WebView2, that renders certain UI elements in windows.

If it's adding printers, it's probably hooking up to the website (webview is just a minified browser, most apps on mobile phones use this) that needs authentication in order to add the printer.

This actually isn't a Windows specific issue. The devs of the program have to hook into this lib in order for this to be a thing. Some programs use this exclusively (Canva for instance, Steam also (at least on Linux it does)). As we get further and further into subscription and the web is able to handle more intensive programs, this will probably be more of a thing as it is lighter compared to Electron.

 

[netsol]

Install Firefox & run your install. I am unfamiliar with your particular issue but the Firefox browser ”knows it’s place”.. it doesn’t “protect you from dangers that aren’t dangers.

there is a silly convoluted process to declare your printer a “trusted site” (they are the last to know that we already trust our printers)

 

[WildWestDesigns]

there is a silly convoluted process to declare your printer a “trusted site” (they are the last to know that we already trust our printers)

Not to sure about that. The fact that more and more devices require perpetual internet access, the less I trust them.

Now, the one issue that Windows does have is that it tends to rebuke 3rd party browsers (FF has been going downhill as well, I used to keep it around just to have something other than the Blink render engine, but Gecko seems to be getting squashed).

 

[Andrew Trykowski]

Microsoft Edge has a function called, Microsoft Edge WebView2, that renders certain UI elements in windows. So Versaworks is trying to use that to render something, most likely a pop up window or something like that, and it's failing. Either you're logged in as a user who doesn't have access to that file or it's broken. The fact that it still doesn't work even in administrator mode, it's more likely that the Microsoft Edge WebView2 is broken. In that case, you can try downloading and repairing that function here: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/?form=MA13LH

I tried that , still nothing, sorry but how do I process the CAB file type ? do I extract it and then hit the exe file extension ? I also did the repair on Microsoft edge still nothing happening , the same problem still present... any other thoughts.. It is a shame that a feature of the most hated edge internet browser would have any effect on versaworks operation....

 

[netsol]

Not to sure about that. The fact that more and more devices require perpetual internet access, the less I trust them.

Now, the one issue that Windows does have is that it tends to rebuke 3rd party browsers (FF has been going downhill as well, I used to keep it around just to have something other than the Blink render engine, but Gecko seems to be getting squashed).

A month or two back, I had to use firefox from a client’s domain controller, LOGGED IN AS DOMAIN ADMIN in order to reach our (their) cisco wireless controller .same with 3 other web servers on their domain. REASON: chrome doesn’t trust their domain’s self issued certificates. WHO ASKED THEM? google chrome IS THE HOSTILE INVADER ON OUR DOMAIN. not the trusted industry resource keeping us safe.

this is what bugs the s**t out of me about windows 11 and TPM 2.0
i DON’T TRUST THEIR PLATFORM. NOT MICROSOFT & certainly not google

 

[netsol]

I tried that , still nothing, sorry but how do I process the CAB file type ? do I extract it and then hit the exe file extension ? I also did the repair on Microsoft edge still nothing happening , the same problem still present... any other thoughts.. It is a shame that a feature of the most hated edge internet browser would have any effect on versaworks operation....

Since I retired, we run SAI flexi, e route & Omega.
no versaworks

can you post a screenshot of your error?
then I will tell you the way around it

 

[netsol]

It wouldn’t hurt to say what version of versaworks & what model printer (and what OS)

 

[WildWestDesigns]

A month or two back, I had to use firefox from a client’s domain controller, LOGGED IN AS DOMAIN ADMIN in order to reach our (their) cisco wireless controller .same with 3 other web servers on their domain. REASON: chrome doesn’t trust their domain’s self issued certificates. WHO ASKED THEM? google chrome IS THE HOSTILE INVADER ON OUR DOMAIN. not the trusted industry resource keeping us safe.

Yes, FF allows quite a bit of things, even sometimes on the violation of CORS, but I digress.

this is what bugs the s**t out of me about windows 11 and TPM 2.0
i DON’T TRUST THEIR PLATFORM. NOT MICROSOFT & certainly not google

Oh no, I certainly don't blame you there, that's why I haven't been on Windows (or Mac) since Win 7 was new. However, MS has their hands (even with Linux) in many pies (same with Google), so not easily able to get around it, just can make it harder.


Also, bare in mind Edge is Chromium under the hood, so there is that as well.

 

[netsol]

Yes, FF allows quite a bit of things, even sometimes on the violation of CORS, but I digress.

Oh no, I certainly don't blame you there, that's why I haven't been on Windows (or Mac) since Win 7 was new. However, MS has their hands (even with Linux) in many pies (same with Google), so not easily able to get around it, just can make it harder.


Also, bare in mind Edge is Chromium under the hood, so there is that as well.

It is still manageable if you create a LOCAL USER.
several thousand pc’s setup in the last 5 years.
always setup as a local user, setup without internet access until after user is setup.
as soon as you “setup with a Microsoft user” you are no longer inncontrol

windows 11 24 h2 takes that away from you.
I will let you know if there is a way around it.

 

[WildWestDesigns]

It is still manageable if you create a LOCAL USER.
several thousand pc’s setup in the last 5 years.
always setup as a local user, setup without internet access until after user is setup.
as soon as you “setup with a Microsoft user” you are no longer inncontrol

windows 11 24 h2 takes that away from you.
I will let you know if there is a way around it.

Even with a local user (which they are pushing to get around that, making it harder and harder, certainly for the "normie" to create a local account (the fact that the first local account that one creates is the admin account and can be done without a p/w is also something that I don't like, but I digress). And while there are de-bloater scripts out there, it's always a game of catch up and some functionality is nuked when things are stripped away (been that way since Win 98, although it has gotten far, far worse).

Shoot, I would say that there end game is essentially a thin client NUC that has enough installed software to bootstrap an Azure instance. Even for power users.

 

[netsol]

Recently I had to make the setting on a windows 11 pc, granting local admin privilege to DOMAIN ADMIN on a domain bound pc. Talk about stating the obvious

 

[netsol]

Microsoft & google fight over who is in charge & we are lucky to file a dissenting opinion