...FLEXI STRARTER, but I can't hand cut either! All I want to do, is cut a little vinyl. I do sandblast glass. I don't use fonts, although, I bought a bunch of Letterhead fonts, panels and ribbons, with the expectation of filling a void in my life, with art. I've never used a graphics program (to any extent) other than, I better whisper here, MS......woops, I forgot I was whispering, I meant ms paint, and I have trouble with that. I want to be able to make signs like the Letterheads do. What I want to do in Flexistarter, is place the a panel down, with a ribbon inside that and a some fonts to that.... Layering, I think it's called. Any help in this direction will be be greatly appreciated. And, if you live close by, I'll buy you lunch and a beer. Seee....I can't even put the proper smiley up.sheeeesh........!