Kiss Cut on a Zund/Summa/Kongsberg

DrunknMonk

New Member
Hi all, does anyone use the above machines to kiss cut vinyls (printed & laminated) ?

We bought a rebranded machine, everything works well a part from the kiss cutting. it does work its just not brill, either to deep or not deep enough, over the whole bed (1.6 x 2.5m)

Can anyone tell me if there KCT blade moves up and down in the holder, (pressure moves it) ours does, we were told its to compensate for the conveyor belt, we can set it to move as much or as little as we want. (its like it has play in it, spring loaded)

Ive been using roll vinyl cutters for 25+ years and they have all been fixed and cutting on the hard cutting strip, and all worked very good including the Summa S2 cutter we currently use.

Im trying to fine tune it, it take hrs to get it just right.

the way we were shown to set it up was, just have the blades tip out of the holder, (minimum as we can) then by hand press the tool holder firmly on the vinyl and cut a circle, just so it scratches the backing sheet.

we do this but then we have pressure from the software, play in the tool holder its self (up and down) and we can adjust the tool its self.

It just seam very hit and miss, to many things to change, not sure what each thing does.

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Gary
 

balstestrat

Problem Solver
I don't think any of the real brands have that sort of wonky system. You set the pressure in the software and of it goes.

Take a picture of the setup, how does the tool look like!
 

Boudica

I'm here for educational purposes.
I don't have a flatbed cutter... But why wouldn't you just dial it in like any other plotter?
 

Jburns

New Member
I think blade depth in the holder is the most important thing- Vinyl plus laminate - were talking microns right? Pressure is one thing, but I am assuming you have a blade holder, that you can adjust its depth
 

ToTo

New Member
On zund it’s spring loaded. Try with the through cut the flatnes of your table. Put a substrate onto table and set cutting deep to 0.1 mm so that it just scratches the surface. Move the knife over the whole table and check if it is everywhere similar. If not your table is misaligned
 

CanuckSigns

Active Member
On the summa, the kiss cutting tool is spring loaded, it's the only tool where the parameters are not set in the software. You need to set both the depth of cut and the pressure manually.
 

victor bogdanov

New Member
Spring loaded on the Colex, blade out just enough to scratch the backer. No pressure setting that I'm aware of, maybe there is one but I haven't had to use it going from kiss cutting 2 mil vinyl up to 8 mil vinyl, just adjust blade extension. kiss cuts as good as a Graphtec but slower, Very similar blades and blade holder to Graphtec
 

Christian @ 2CT Media

Active Member
Awesome, we are looking at adding one to help with cutting wrap panels and kiss cut graphics, along with our 2 160TCs. Our Multicam Celero is utter crap for kiss cutting, everything else is fine.
 

Boudica

I'm here for educational purposes.
Are we still talking about Summa flat bed? I Have a fairly new Summa T2, loved it until we started having issues. But if you all are referring to a flat bed.. I'll be quiet .
 
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