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LAMINATOR PROBLEM

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
Hi guys ! I'm having problems with my laminator. Somebody who knows about electronic, told me that this card is not working. Is it possible to fix it, or do I have to buy another card. The problem is that my laminator has no name. The booklet I have only says ZW. Could somebody let me know what to do ?? Or if it can be repaired ?? Or Where can I buy another one ?? Thank you !!
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netsol

Active Member
richard
someone from a tv repair shop, or that sort of thing, can probably fix the power supply board for you
if it were me, i would be more comfortable seeing it, inserted in the machine, however

why don't you hedge your bets and post pictures of the laminator so we can try to identify it.
i was recently able to identify a "no name" 72" rotary paper cutter by posting a picture, making it much easier to
order a blade

post the picture and i will see if i can be any help
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
richard
someone from a tv repair shop, or that sort of thing, can probably fix the power supply board for you
if it were me, i would be more comfortable seeing it, inserted in the machine, however

why don't you hedge your bets and post pictures of the laminator so we can try to identify it.
i was recently able to identify a "no name" 72" rotary paper cutter by posting a picture, making it much easier to
order a blade

post the picture and i will see if i can be any help
Thank you !! Following are some photos !! Hope these help !!
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Saturn

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I'd definitely give a little repair shop a try.

Looks like just maybe it's the transistor(?) down in the lower righthand corner of the first photo? I've removed and replaced leaky capacitors on power supply boards to good effect, but that's because the capacitor itself had failed and wasn't caused by anything else. If that's all it is, you could order one online for a few bucks and solder it on yourself.

The component should have more numbers written on the black shell that you might be able to check online for. Not necessarily on the circuit board, but tiny hard to read type on the piece itself, unlike the resistors etc.

Good luck, whatever it is!
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
Thank you !! Following are some photos !! Hope these help !!
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I'd definitely give a little repair shop a try.

Looks like just maybe it's the transistor(?) down in the lower righthand corner of the first photo? I've removed and replaced leaky capacitors on power supply boards to good effect, but that's because the capacitor itself had failed and wasn't caused by anything else. If that's all it is, you could order one online for a few bucks and solder it on yourself.

The component should have more numbers written on the black shell that you might be able to check online for. Not necessarily on the circuit board, but tiny hard to read type on the piece itself, unlike the resistors etc.

Good luck, whatever it is!
Yes !! That piece was re-soldered by the guy that was checking it. He said that maybe could be that, but no !!
 

netsol

Active Member
JBurton
the chinese are very good at reverse engineering

we have 2 daiges, a royal sovereign and a seal 4000. but that board is nothing i have ever seen

it looks to be simple enough that a child could fix it, there is not a lot going on there

a cold laminator shouldn't have any need for more than 2 voltages coming off a power supply board
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
JBurton
the chinese are very good at reverse engineering

we have 2 daiges, a royal sovereign and a seal 4000. but that board is nothing i have ever seen

it looks to be simple enough that a child could fix it, there is not a lot going on there

a cold laminator shouldn't have any need for more than 2 voltages coming off a power supply board
This one was a cold/hot laminator, buy I eliminate the heaters
 

netsol

Active Member
richard, we may simply be able to power the beast with one or two external power supplies. did your friend, who looked at the board say what (approximately) the missing voltage is?

or, just read the volages printed on the capacitors
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
richard, we may simply be able to power the beast with one or two external power supplies. did your friend, who looked at the board say what (approximately) the missing voltage is?

or, just read the volages printed on the capacitors
WOW ! Don't know what to say !! I'll ask the guy and let you know. I'm "0" in electricity !!
 

netsol

Active Member
we can just use a power supply, like for a laptop, perhaps, only bigger

see what the voltage is, and i will match something up
 

netsol

Active Member
j
I'd definitely give a little repair shop a try.

Looks like just maybe it's the transistor(?) down in the lower righthand corner of the first photo? I've removed and replaced leaky capacitors on power supply boards to good effect, but that's because the capacitor itself had failed and wasn't caused by anything else. If that's all it is, you could order one online for a few bucks and solder it on yourself.

The component should have more numbers written on the black shell that you might be able to check online for. Not necessarily on the circuit board, but tiny hard to read type on the piece itself, unlike the resistors etc.

Good luck, whatever it is!


saturn

the transistor is a likely point of failure, but, by no means the only one

points of high current flow often go bad, causing the need to resolder "ringed" solder connections. caps develop high ESR, driver transistors fail, that little high frequency "chop" transformer could have an open winding...

i wish i recognized the laminator the reverse engineering people copied. the chinese are great at this, but they often skimp on the parts that make building the device expensive

someone posted that it looks like a GFP 563H

i will see if i can acquire thecservice manual, although if he only neds cold lamination, I could do that with a dc power supply and a clip lead

if he were in the US, i would have ups'd him something to try
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
j



saturn

the transistor is a likely point of failure, but, by no means the only one

points of high current flow often go bad, causing the need to resolder "ringed" solder connections. caps develop high ESR, driver transistors fail, that little high frequency "chop" transformer could have an open winding...

i wish i recognized the laminator the reverse engineering people copied. the chinese are great at this, but they often skimp on the parts that make building the device expensive

someone posted that it looks like a GFP 563H

i will see if i can acquire thecservice manual, although if he only neds cold lamination, I could do that with a dc power supply and a clip lead

if he were in the US, i would have ups'd him something to try
Thanks my friend !!
The guy who is checking the laminator, recomended me to buy a speed regulator to adapt to the machine. We are waiting for it ! I'll let you know what happens !!
 

netsol

Active Member
Thanks my friend !!
The guy who is checking the laminator, recomended me to buy a speed regulator to adapt to the machine. We are waiting for it ! I'll let you know what happens !!

great!
sounds like we are all on the same page, let me know if i can do anything to help.
 

RICHARD SIMMONS

New Member
how is the laminator doing?

did you replace power supply?
Hello everyone ! Finally the laminator is runing again !! The guy adapted the speed regulator with no problem. Take a look !! Thanks to all !!
 

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