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new Mimaki CJV 200

manlyon

New Member
Hi,

Does anyone run the new mimaki CJV200. I'm interested in this machine and would like to know many thinks :)
- print quality : is there any grainyness in the print even in dual CMYK ?
- are the light gradient very smooth in dual CMYK ?
- does the vinyl curl 24h after print and cut with the new SS22 ink ?
- what is the scratch resistance of SS22 compare to SS21 ?
- do you know the price of the printhead ( head crash can occur...) ?
- is it able to cut accurately a 2.5 or 3 meters sheet long (7.6 inch) in print/cut mode ?
- what do you think of this printer ?
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Solventinkjet

DIY Printer Fixing Guide
From a tech point of view, it's a nice upgrade to the CJV150. Very easy to work on. The new head prints better than the old DX7 head but a little bit slow comparatively. It's not meant to be a high production machine though. It's perfect for a one or two man shop for sure. The head cost is my biggest negative on it. $5200 here in the states; about 43% the cost of the machine. That's way overpriced and they've altered the electronics so that you can't just put any Epson I3200 head in it. So until someone figures out how to crack the head electronics, they are going to be expensive.
 

micadesign

New Member
From a tech point of view, it's a nice upgrade to the CJV150. Very easy to work on. The new head prints better than the old DX7 head but a little bit slow comparatively. It's not meant to be a high production machine though. It's perfect for a one or two man shop for sure. The head cost is my biggest negative on it. $5200 here in the states; about 43% the cost of the machine. That's way overpriced and they've altered the electronics so that you can't just put any Epson I3200 head in it. So until someone figures out how to crack the head electronics, they are going to be expensive.
wow. for sure that a lot. are the printheads for the jv330 the same price?
 

Smoke_Jaguar

Man who touches printers inappropriately.
The 330 series uses the weird i3200 head assemblies that Mimaki wants $5k for, but it uses 2 of them.
 

manlyon

New Member
The i3200 head seems to have only 4 canals so I don't think the CJV200 has this printhead since it's a 8 colors...
 

Smoke_Jaguar

Man who touches printers inappropriately.
Meet the i3200-U1 HD, the 8 channel version of the UV i3200. Also aqueous and solvent versions of these heads in 8 channel.
0063457_epson-i3200-u1-uv-printhead-i3200-u1-hd_550.jpeg
 

TheSigntists

Boat wrapper and Signage designer
I just ordered a CJV200-160. Arrives next week. Have to say I'm very happy to wave goodbye to Roland. I'll be running 8 colours, don't mind the slower speed, I only print max res/high quality anyway.
Did you buy one in the end? I can update in a week or two after having a play.
 

WizardWorks

New Member
I've had mine for about two months now and still love it. I run 8 colors and the results are gorgeous, but I can't answer any of your dual CMYK questions.
S22 ink is on par with the S21, no durability problems that I've noticed.
I've never had a moment of remorse over buying this machine.

-gp
 

zappin

Printer? I barely know her...
As with the lovely folks above, I too purchased the Mimaki CJV200 and have been running it for 2-3 months now.
New to digital printing, seasoned in screenprinting and plotting & very much tech savvy though.
I had been struggling on pulling the trigger on a digital printer as an addition to my shop, ended up on this.

The specs I have are dual-CMYK on the BS4 inks ( the only inks available in my Country ) & I pretty much exclusively do vinyl stickers on it (without lamination for now).
For now I've been using ORAJET® 3164 on it to keep costs low until I make back my investment.

The TL;DR is it's a brilliant little printer & much less problematic than I'd envisioned it being.

Print Quality = Super good based on my comparison of a handful of similar-spec printers on the market. I mainly run it on uni-direction & I produce incredible details (e.g. tiny font that's vector quality). Colours are true-to-file and vibrant.
Drying / Ink Related = I run the heater on 35/35/45 but in my experience using uni-direction or high passes (or perhaps utilizing the "Pause Time after Scan"?) is needed to avoid minor drying issues during printing. I do air out whatever I produce for as long as possible before continuing on to cutting & packaging.
Plotting / Cutting = It's fairly capable though slow ( as advertised ) but if I were you I'd never bother cutting without using registration marks as the no-marks cutting is unreliable to say the least. I already had Summas though so I use those 90% of the time.
Maintenance = It's fairly straightforward, you just shake the inks every 3 days & do a full clean at least once a week. Haven't had any noteworthy issues.
Price-to-performance Ratio = Unmatched in my opinion - based on similar "entry level" printers it's an extremely good bang for your buck, again in my opinion.
Print Durability = If dried properly the print is perfectly reliable and I've only heard positive things from customers, though for any hardcore use cases I'd definitely laminate - however, most high-intensity applications that come my way are better suited for screenprinting anyway so I haven't bothered getting a cold laminator yet.
Ease of use = For me it's a piece of cake to operate & fiddle with, but I have to recognize that both the printer's UI & RasterLink itself feel beyond outdated for my standards. Though I can't knock it for that as from my testing other printers I've come to realize they're all on par or worse in terms of UI/UX & clunkiness.
What I'd go for if I had a way higher budget = Likely a UV printer such as the UCJV330 due to instant curing, addition of white ink & possibility for 4-layer stuff. Though I personally prefer the look & feel of solvent printers more.

Apologies for the rather long read, simply wanted to give a relatively thorough overview.
Tried to avoid information that's material-related or pertaining to personal workflow details as those are case-by-case things.
 

MikePro

Active Member
from a consumer standpoint: if its better, let it rip!
i would pay more for a higher quality product.

from a producer standpoint: if its better, let it rip!
i will price it accordingly, assuming ~7 year obsolescence.

edited to add: i could still be making signs on my mimaki jv3 if i needed to ....but god damn do i love the sequence of new printers i've gone through.
 
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