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Problem head rank number

ezequiel

printer desing
Hello, I have a question. I wanted to make a head change on my vs640 and when I entered the head rank, the machine did not recognize it, that is, it made two blip blip sounds and did not make the changes. I also ran into the problem that the head has fewer numbers than the previous one.
I leave an image of the head PS I don't take any number change on the existing one either
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ezequiel

printer desing
with the previous head range it does not emit ink from any channel. He also did not manage to save another head rank number. When trying to change a number that is on the device, it does not allow you to record it. it makes me double blip
 

damonCA21

Active Member
The head rank tunes the head, it doesn't make it work or not work. Where did you get the replacement head? Was it from China as they often sell non working used ones as 'refurbished'
You can enter the number from any roland head and the head will still work
 

ezequiel

printer desing
El rango está en una etiqueta en el embalaje del cabezal.
El cabezal debería imprimirse con el rango anterior o incorrecto. Probablemente hayas insertado el cabezal de forma incorrecta. La etiqueta blanca debe estar en el lado izquierdo.
if the meaning is correct
 

ezequiel

printer desing
El cabezal afina el cabezal, no lo hace funcionar o no. ¿Dónde conseguiste el cabezal de repuesto? ¿Era de China? A menudo venden cabezales usados que no funcionan como "reacondicionados"
Puede ingresar el número desde cualquier cabezal Roland y el cabezal seguirá funcionando.
No, I don't know its origin, I bought this equipment used, it has a head that is broken in its black delaminated channel. and this other one was given to me by the previous owner, I cleaned it with ultrasound and tried to insert it to see what his response was... but it didn't print anything, it's probably worse than the one it is now
 

ezequiel

printer desing
Another question because it does not allow changing the head rank numbers. When you change any number and press enter, the device emits a double beep and it does not change...
 

damonCA21

Active Member
No, I don't know its origin, I bought this equipment used, it has a head that is broken in its black delaminated channel. and this other one was given to me by the previous owner, I cleaned it with ultrasound and tried to insert it to see what his response was... but it didn't print anything, it's probably worse than the one it is now
Never clean the heads with ultrasound cleaners! They will kill the head straight away
 

ezequiel

printer desing
Never clean the heads with ultrasound cleaners! They will kill the head straight away
I'm really going to tell my experience that seems to be pure coincidence but with 35w ultrasound and flushing liquid and saved 4 dx2 heads that have been printing for years. and a Chinese dx7.... my method is that the head does not touch the bottom, do short cycles of 2 or 3 seconds and previously fill it with liquid with a syringe without applying pressure.
I'm not saying that this is correct, just that it has worked better for me than just pricing with syringes and soaking. If you have a technique and want to share it, I'm all ears.
What's more, there are some Chinese cleaning equipment that works with ultrasound on Aliexpress, I don't think I've ever tried them.
 

ezequiel

printer desing
The vast majority of heads die from what I call delamination, which is the separation of the outer layer of the walls that lead the canals. But from time to time what happens is that the channels become clogged and by carrying out too many cleanings the first thing happens. So I help the head to expel the ink and with flushing liquid plus the ultrasonic I soften any sediment and extract it.
 

Terry01

New Member
Never clean the heads with ultrasound cleaners! They will kill the head straight away
I use Print Doctor equipment, only the face of the nozzles are every submerged whilst cleaning, and I have recovered hundreds of heads. Also your hate for Chinese equipment and parts needs to be bought to the attention of the moderators of this forum. You sell used parts that you say are tested, and I call BS. Scan motors etc, will run no problem when powered up, but when resistance is higher than codes in the system, they will give you an error. Back off and shut your mouth for a change. People on this forum have stopped commenting and helping others, because of you.
 

damonCA21

Active Member
You have fully recovered hundreds of heads? Can you provide any proof of this. And a link to your business as this sounds very dubious? I have never heard of a business specialising in repairing solvent heads. I'm sure if this was true you would be very well known in the print community?

My 'hate' as you put it is for chinese sellers selling non working parts, or cheap copies of OEM parts like dampers, captops etc.. that don't work as well as the original parts. Not sure why the mods would need this bought to their attention as it is a view held by most printer technicians.

The parts I sell are tested ON the printer. If a scan motor works on the printer when running test prints without throwing up any error codes, then it is good. The same as with boards etc... Oddly out of all the parts I have sold over the years, I have had zero returns for non working parts. I don't need to justify my business to you, but I get parts from fully working and tested printers for parts.

As for 'People on this forum have stopped commenting and helping others, because of you' provide proof? Have you spoken to every member on this forum?
 

netsol

Active Member
I'm really going to tell my experience that seems to be pure coincidence but with 35w ultrasound and flushing liquid and saved 4 dx2 heads that have been printing for years. and a Chinese dx7.... my method is that the head does not touch the bottom, do short cycles of 2 or 3 seconds and previously fill it with liquid with a syringe without applying pressure.
I'm not saying that this is correct, just that it has worked better for me than just pricing with syringes and soaking. If you have a technique and want to share it, I'm all ears.
What's more, there are some Chinese cleaning equipment that works with ultrasound on Aliexpress, I don't think I've ever tried them.
We bought a chinese knockoff of thebprinthead doctor on ebay
(ultrasonic cleaner, aquarium pump & some plumbing and valces) and added a small aquarium heater
to the mix
 

ezequiel

printer desing
You have fully recovered hundreds of heads? Can you provide any proof of this. And a link to your business as this sounds very dubious? I have never heard of a business specialising in repairing solvent heads. I'm sure if this was true you would be very well known in the print community?

My 'hate' as you put it is for chinese sellers selling non working parts, or cheap copies of OEM parts like dampers, captops etc.. that don't work as well as the original parts. Not sure why the mods would need this bought to their attention as it is a view held by most printer technicians.

The parts I sell are tested ON the printer. If a scan motor works on the printer when running test prints without throwing up any error codes, then it is good. The same as with boards etc... Oddly out of all the parts I have sold over the years, I have had zero returns for non working parts. I don't need to justify my business to you, but I get parts from fully working and tested printers for parts.

As for 'People on this forum have stopped commenting and helping others, because of you' provide proof? Have you spoken to every member on this forum?
I don't know what your story is my friend.
But it may be true that the original parts are better tested or are of 10/10 quality, but sometimes and mainly in underdeveloped countries, these cost a lot of money.
That's why you end up resorting to pieces from another origin that may be 8/10 but they work. If the heads cost $100, no one would clean them or try to save, they only do it because the cost is great and that is why the Chinese teams triumphed and if you look, they increasingly use cheaper and disposable heads.
On the other hand, the heads in good electrical condition are repairable because, as I already said, the problem is that the external layer with the micro-holes separates from the internal one and loses tightness, thus creating a pressure that is not capable of being moved by the pizoelectric actuator of the nozzle
 
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