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State Vendor requirements

JBurton

JBurton

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Ugh, I guess my wonderful state recently added new requirements for executing a state contract. I now must:
1. SHALL NOT boycott Israel.
2. SHALL NOT boycott energy, fossil fuel, firearms, or ammunition industry.
3. SHALL CERTIFY that the contractor does not knowingly employee illegal immigrants.
4. SHALL CERTIFY that the contractor is not wholly or majority owned by PRC.
Numbers 2 and 4 are brand new this year. Anyone else have more absurd requirements for working with your states or local municipalities?
 
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pro-UP

pro-UP

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Those are similar requirements for federal contracts too. I think there were more, but same theme.
 
GAC05

GAC05

Quit buggin' me
We had to sign a good deal of paperwork to sell to a DOD contractor here.
No Chinese ownership of the company
US-made products (as much as possible)
No telecom equipment with a specific class of Chinese tech in it.
Nothing about Israel, illegal immigrants, or guns.
There was a section on rockets and munitions, but I didn't look too closely at it, being a little outside of our wheehouse.
Once we got all cert'd up, and onboard, they accepted our bid, after we justified why our shop rate was much higher than the local prevailing rate.
We're in the install/delivery phase right now and this one sale made our numbers for the 4th quarter of last year.
 
JBurton

JBurton

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Boudica said:
This is for real?
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Yup. The Israel boycott provision is about 5 years old. The illegal immigrant one is probably 50-100 years old. The energy and PRC ones are brand new.
Gino said:
I agree with only #3. The rest is ludicrous
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I find it funny that it's not really giving any teeth, and that instead of saying 'shall not employ', they say 'shall not knowingly employ', which gives any given CEO plausible deniability when they 'find out' that Jose isn't an Arkansan...
 
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Boudica

Boudica

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JBurton said:
Yup. The Israel boycott provision is about 5 years old. The illegal immigrant one is probably 50-100 years old. The energy and PRC ones are brand new.

I find it funny that it's not really giving any teeth, and that instead of saying 'shall not employ', they say 'shall not knowingly employ', which gives any given CEO plausible deniability when they 'find out' that Jose isn't an Arkansan...
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What exactly constitutes a boycott? How do you "Boycott Israel"? Don't go there? I've never been to Israel, am I guilty of boycotting? furthermore, how would it be known what you are boycotting unless you advertise it?
 
JBurton

JBurton

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Boudica said:
What exactly constitutes a boycott? How do you "Boycott Israel"? Don't go there? I've never been to Israel, am I guilty of boycotting? furthermore, how would it be known what you are boycotting unless you advertise it?
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Exactly. I think it's a solidarity thing, when they buy missiles from the US, a large percentage of them are manufactured in Camden. There are also ties to our former governor, the current ambassador to Israel, and his monthly pilgramage trips to the promised land with boatloads of baptists.
I get politics, but I don't get how all the damned 'republicans' in my state aren't upset that the local government is all up in their business about what they can't do, even if what they can't do isn't really a restriction on doing something but rather a restriction against not not doing something.
Anyways, if you do business with the state, and they see you bought non-kosher hot dogs, straight to jail!
 
pro-UP

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GAC05 said:
We had to sign a good deal of paperwork to sell to a DOD contractor here.
No Chinese ownership of the company
US-made products (as much as possible)
No telecom equipment with a specific class of Chinese tech in it.
Nothing about Israel, illegal immigrants, or guns.
There was a section on rockets and munitions, but I didn't look too closely at it, being a little outside of our wheehouse.
Once we got all cert'd up, and onboard, they accepted our bid, after we justified why our shop rate was much higher than the local prevailing rate.
We're in the install/delivery phase right now and this one sale made our numbers for the 4th quarter of last year.
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That's awesome, congrats!
 
WildWestDesigns

WildWestDesigns

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The thing that most people forget that there are different rules when dealing with state/government and the are usually dictated by who is in charge etc. #3 and #4, I can understand from a government standpoint.

Any Python users here (can't stand it myself, but I digress)? They refused government money due to a stipulation attached to it. A very provocative stipulation, a polarizing one to say the least. I would imagine that all government contracts have some stipulations attached to them and only going to get more so giving the polarizing culture that we have here stateside.

Have said that, I tend not to deal with those contracts, a few times I have done state ones, but my involvement was not along the same level as some of y'alls, so it was wham...bam...done.

binki said:
More like the People's Republic of California. Hopefully we change that in the next election.
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Familiar with the phrase "Whistlin' Dixie"?
 
SightLine

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visual800 said:
I wouldnt waste my time with with govt bids, been there done that. Its all about who is cheap
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That is very very often not true..... About 60% of my work is for government. We are often the highest bidder. If the agency is responsible they a weighted system to evaluate bids based on multiple factors with price only being maybe 25% of the weight. Experience (both in time and as well as in handling similar projects), locality, proposal itself, terms, etc should also be key deciding factors. Also helps to be aware of agencies and knowing if they have something planned to offer a free consultation on specifying materials and whatnot as well so that an RFQ/RFP is not just asking for "premium vinyl" when it should be specific and they need to understand the differences. Like some Chinese cast vinyl is not really comparable to 3M 180 cast vinyl, etc.

More on topic. Yeah have seen some unusual requirements but nothing on boycotts. lol As a business, I do not make public opinions on anything political or potentially controversial. I like everyones money.
 
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