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budlinch

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I have a Mimaki cjv150 eco solvent printer and would like to print my students photos. I have tried Epson's premium glossy photo paper and the print looks beautiful but, the the ink is wiping off of the print. Does anyone have suggestion for a good photo paper to use with this printer? I am in Canada
 
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netsol

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We use “photo 8” from piedmont plastics (formerly diversified display) to print on our rolands
it will not get along with the chemistry of our mutoh vj1627h
for that we use hp ID (instant dry) gloss from lexjet, I think
 
P Wagner

P Wagner

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budlinch said:
I have a Mimaki cjv150 eco solvent printer and would like to print my students photos. I have tried Epson's premium glossy photo paper and the print looks beautiful but, the the ink is wiping off of the print. Does anyone have suggestion for a good photo paper to use with this printer? I am in Canada
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Any solvent (and eco-solvent) printer will require a solvent-compatible media coating. Aqueous coated papers will not dry with solvent inks, as you have learned.

I can recommend Sihl Trisolv 3699 photobase paper or 3686 poster paper. Either will image well, but may take some time (6-24 hours) to dry completely with solvent inks.
 
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budlinch

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Thank you all for your quick responses. I think I will give the Sihl a try since they sell close to me.
Thanks again.
 
MarkSnelling

MarkSnelling

Mark Snelling - Hasco Graphics
budlinch said:
Thank you all for your quick responses. I think I will give the Sihl a try since they sell close to me.
Thanks again.
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Try the Performance Paper. Inexpensive and dries instantly. It isn't the typical shiny paper..more of a satin look. I move about 300 rolls a month of this out of my Cleveland warehouse. I believe Treck Hall sells it.
 
Ron at Forest Litho

Ron at Forest Litho

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I've seen this incompatibility before. I needed it done fast so.... I sprayed it from a distance with Rustoleum ultra cover clear. Or, if you can get it, I am a big fan of SEM 13003 vinyl clear coat. If you can get a light coat on without it dissolving and moving the ink, then you can add a few more coats until it is sealed. It can work. But of course the compatible paper is better.
 
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netsol

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Ron at Forest Litho said:
I've seen this incompatibility before. I needed it done fast so.... I sprayed it from a distance with Rustoleum ultra cover clear. Or, if you can get it, I am a big fan of SEM 13003 vinyl clear coat. If you can get a light coat on without it dissolving and moving the ink, then you can add a few more coats until it is sealed. It can work. But of course the compatible paper is better.
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isn't it easier to just buy a roll of paper, compatible with the chemistry of your printer?
i have done the same thing, not with paper, but with paints, after painting mdf for "sponsor panels" under "welcome to <your town> signs.
they play with the chemistry of paints so much, i often find vinyl lifting after 2-3 weeks.
spraying a clear coat on the paint seems to be a good "cheat" (if we end up doing a LOT OF THESE i will invest the time to learn as much about paint
chemistry as i know about my inks)
 
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budlinch

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Ron at Forest Litho said:
I've seen this incompatibility before. I needed it done fast so.... I sprayed it from a distance with Rustoleum ultra cover clear. Or, if you can get it, I am a big fan of SEM 13003 vinyl clear coat. If you can get a light coat on without it dissolving and moving the ink, then you can add a few more coats until it is sealed. It can work. But of course the compatible paper is better.
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That is also what I was thinking and going to ask- "Is there a way to seal it?" example: Spray Fixative. It seems expensive for a can. I will look into the clear coats.
Thanks for the info.
 
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bpp

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Your sure that's what you pay? It's $257 on the site. I know I can negotiate but that sounds low
 
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Bensen

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I’ve had similar issues with some glossy papers before. For your Mimaki cjv150, you might want to try a photo paper specifically designed for eco-solvent inks. It might also be worth checking if there's a specific coating or laminate that can help protect the prints.
 
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soggywinter

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bpp said:
Your sure that's what you pay? It's $257 on the site. I know I can negotiate but that sounds low
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It is. I've never requested price breaks, but maybe they have an algorithm that gives them (though my order volume is not big), or maybe they have geographic pricing differentials....? I order from their Seattle warehouse.
 
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netsol

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we are sidestepping this whole issue i think. i never found a paper that "liked" the mutoh, that i liked.
we are still using photo 8 solvent paper on the old roland sc545ex (a lot of extra work for a 20 year old printer, kind of like insisting that your grandfather shovel the snow.)

i got a deal a couple weeks ago. picked up a very low printing hours designjet t1700dr
this seems to print great at 5x the speed of the roland.
it also loves the HP instant dry papers

there is a certain charm to a wide format printer that the printhead can come from staples for $120 each.

this really tempts me to fiddle with the chemistry and convert it to a pseudo "outdoor sign printer"

at a bare minimum i intend to convert to bulk ink tanks ASAP
 
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