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vinyl recommendation for painted concrete - long term

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tulsagraphics

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Hi all!

I've got a job to install black lettering on painted concrete at football stadium. (yeah I know, epoxy painted letters would be more durable, but it's simply not feasible for this project.)

Oklahoma weather doesn't mess around... pretty harsh environment for vinyl... so I need a premium film. My first thought was 2080... but 3M has so many lines... they just might have something better suited for this type of application.

Any suggestions on what film would hold up the best?
 

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Boudica

Boudica

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We have an alumagraphic print up on our building (painted concrete) that's been there for about 4 years. It faces south and gets a lot of weather abuse. It still looks great.
 
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FCD

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Alumigraphic or try 3M 3662 with a cast lam. We did 40’ lettering on a textured masonry surface with 3M 3662 and it’s been up for a few years and still going…
 
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tulsagraphics

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Gino said:
Why can't it be hand-lettered ??
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If only I had the resources for it. I'm a one man shop in a small college town (doing mostly printing / vinyl installs / etc.) I've never hand lettered before. Not that painting is particularly difficult or anything... but this job is big for me. 63 locations on 3 floors, all by ladder.

In the past I would have referred the client to one of the bigger shops in town, but they all closed down in the past 2 to 4 years, and the nearest (capable) shops are about 60-70 miles away. I actually tried multiple times to refer my client to the shops in the bigger cities -- but it seems they would rather me use vinyl than to bring in someone from out of town. I mean.. it's not that I really even want this type of work, but in this economy, during slow season, I'm having to give extra thought about the jobs I'm willing to do without stretching myself too thin. Know what I mean? A bit of a pickle.
 
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Boudica

Boudica

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tulsagraphics said:
If only I had the resources for it. I'm a one man shop in a small college town (doing mostly printing / vinyl installs / etc.) I've never hand lettered before. Not that painting is particularly difficult or anything... but this job is big for me. 63 locations on 3 floors, all by ladder.

In the past I would have referred the client to one of the bigger shops in town, but they all closed down in the past 2 to 4 years, and the nearest (capable) shops are about 60-70 miles away. I actually tried multiple times to refer my client to the shops in the bigger cities -- but it seems they would rather me use vinyl than to bring in someone from out of town. I mean.. it's not that I really even want this type of work, but in this economy, during slow season, I'm having to give extra thought about the jobs I'm willing to do without stretching myself too thin. Know what I mean? A bit of a pickle.
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Alumagraphic might be your best solution then. It's easy to install too. However... You will want a solid piece rather than a contour cut lettering.
 
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Bobby H

Arial Sucks.
For that kind of irregular surface, if the lettering is meant to hold up for many years I wouldn't use any sort of vinyl directly on the concrete at all. Masking and painting is one possible solution. But I would try to get them to consider using flat, routed letters and stud mount them to the wall. Either that or install sign panels.
 
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Vogunxxy

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I’ve done a few installs on rough painted concrete, and surface prep made the biggest difference. Cleaning the wall properly and using some heat during install helped a lot. For a particularly tricky job on a textured concrete wall, I reached out to Masonry Service to get insight on how the surface was coated, which helped me figure out which adhesive would stick best long-term. Made the whole install smoother.
 
MarkSnelling

MarkSnelling

Mark Snelling - Hasco Graphics
I can send you a test roll of Polar Grip from Drytac. It is a 7 year outdoor performance film with a high-tack and it has nearly double the adhesive applied than most films. It is angry adhesive that can stick to brick, cinder block, cement, asphalt, plastics, powder coated metals, etc. It is only around $340. Throw a matching 7 year lam on top and your whole kit is around $650. (I don't really believe in touting 7 years because there's no way the ink will really last much longer than 5, but the films are durable enough).
 
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