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wage for employees

Bradley D

www.jigsign.com
Curious of hourly wage other sign companies pay for: general fabricator, welder, painter, cnc operator, master sign electrician, and salesman. Maybe specify area as well for reference. I'm sure this will vary greatly just trying to get a general idea of how cost of labor varies by region.
 

Brian2345

New Member
Central VA, my range for each job you specified(some we don't have those positions) is $16-$20 an hour. If someone comes in with exceptional experience, I will go higher.

Our wonderful Dems doubled our minimum wage to $13.50 so their is major compression with existing employees but that is a whole separate issue.
 

MikePro

Active Member
a good starting point, is referencing prevailing wages in your state but saving on hourly by offering kickass benefits.
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posting IL vs Texas for reference, which is BONKERS
i know WI is somewhere in between, but our union guys make closer to the aforementioned.


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rcali

New Member
This is the wage determination for Virginia, the link is a pdf to a louden county sheet. I don't know how to add photos in here

Virginia ranges from $17 for a laborer to $50 for pipe fitting.

The general norm among my employer and the competitors seems to be a starting minimum of $22.

A comfortable and sustainable living wage in Northern Virginia is $35 for a single individual (calculated by average rent prices, average groceries ect ect, but a lot of studies say its a lot more).

I know that it is not the sole responsibility of an employer to combat living costs for their employees, but maybe look into what rent costs in your area and that will kind of tell you if you're paying enough; because if people can't afford to live within a reasonable commuting distance to your facility they probably won't stay your employee
 

kcollinsdesign

Old member
In Illinois it all depends.

Small union electric shops (under $2M annual sales) will usually have one union member that is a licensed electrician (often the owner or a manager) that is paid scale in order to bid on and secure jobs that involve public (taxpayer) money. Big electric shops will often have more union members. These shops depend on publicly funded or corporate projects (when union affiliation is a negotiated requirement) to sustain union wages. Often these shops will pay prevailing wage on union jobs (even non-union workers who work on those jobs) when recording is required. Non-union workers will normally make about that half that (wage plus benefits package) on most jobs that do not require union affiliation, with the average wage being about $25 – $30/hour plus healthcare and employer contributions to a 401k or Simple IRA.

The majority of shops in Illinois are not union affiliated, with average wages of around $25 – $30 (with varying benefits packages) for sign installers. Regular shop help (including vinyl installers) usually make between $20 – $25/ hour. Wages are higher in the Chicago area, often depending on immigrant labor, which tends to be less expensive, especially with non-documented workers.
 

JBurton

Signtologist
I've got an old body man who gets $25, an old lineman who makes the same, 'helpers' or folks with no appreciable experience get $17 and work up from there. Start a guy at something livable and give clear goals for raises, which is impossible in the custom sign world. In your case, you may set a goal of just a rectangular trimless letter that is both perfect and completed within XX hours, sacrifice a sheet to get enough parts for repeated attempts, and let them try once a month/ 6 months/ whatever seems to fit their progress. It's going to be challenging to bring in someone to do top notch work if you can't pay them enough...
This is outside of the LR metro area in AR, and I'm probably paying better than other folks in town, no necessarily LR, they'd be closer to $30 depending on if they're running a crane.
 

kcollinsdesign

Old member
I've got an old body man who gets $25, an old lineman who makes the same, 'helpers' or folks with no appreciable experience get $17 and work up from there. Start a guy at something livable and give clear goals for raises, which is impossible in the custom sign world. In your case, you may set a goal of just a rectangular trimless letter that is both perfect and completed within XX hours, sacrifice a sheet to get enough parts for repeated attempts, and let them try once a month/ 6 months/ whatever seems to fit their progress. It's going to be challenging to bring in someone to do top notch work if you can't pay them enough...
This is outside of the LR metro area in AR, and I'm probably paying better than other folks in town, no necessarily LR, they'd be closer to $30 depending on if they're running a crane.
Arkansas has the lowest cost of living of all 50 states. It is also a "right-to-work" state. I'm sure you treat your employees well, and wages are relative to the cost of living in any area, but it is quite a different story in Illinois where unions rule and taxes are out the roof!

I consider myself lucky! I could be located in New Jersey...
 
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