Suggestions Windows XP is Dead.

[Attila Nagy]

Can I ask everyone here,
Please Do not Support the myth or mislead people, needing to use Windows XP.
ANY cutters with Serial or Parallel ports can be used on the latest Windows or Mac computers.
Do not even mention Virtual machine.

If you do not know how, just ask.
Thank You.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

For the most part, totally true. Serial adapters are totally a thing, and you can get them for almost nothing. Software is where the pain can lie. Sometimes it can be worth rebuilding an XP machine if it means saving a few thousand bucks on a machine that is already on the short list for replacement.

 

[Attila Nagy]

For the most part, totally true. Serial adapters are totally a thing, and you can get them for almost nothing. Software is where the pain can lie. Sometimes it can be worth rebuilding an XP machine if it means saving a few thousand bucks on a machine that is already on the short list for replacement.

Still don't get it. There is no need to have Windows XP, Ever.

 

[netsol]

I almost never disagree with you 2. HOWEVER I might confess that if I go over to the corner of the shop that
has 5/or 6 Roland engravers & metazas there is a 20 year old laptop running XP (if will blow the dust off it tomorrow)

if all someonecwants to do is run an ancient version of old Roland software or a rip WHY NOT?
It doesn’t need to see the internet. For all it knows bill clinton. Just got elected. ( or maybe George W)

I am not a complete Luddite, I can switch one wire and feed any of these machines from ASPIRE.

point is the older stuff still works

if I open my cabinet I have installation media for just about every thing going back to do’s 3.3 (disk images on those new writable cd drives)

 

[Attila Nagy]

My problem is, People giving away perfectly good working machines, and buying cheap rubbish, just because they have been miss leaded. And I do not need more cutters or routers,

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

The Oce Arizona I have runs XP for the control system. No reliable way to go to a newer version. Always edge cases.

 

[netsol]

We had a large client who bought a biessemeyer cnc in 1994. it booted off 1.44 floppies, ran dos 3 in Italian. It took an auto cad (I don’t remember what version) file exported as .def)

I still keep in touch with tony the auto cad guy they hired ( he had just graduated from NJIT) 30 years later.

 

[Attila Nagy]

The Oce Arizona I have runs XP for the control system. No reliable way to go to a newer version. Always edge cases.

You Should just say: "I do not know reliable way..." because someone does.

 

[netsol]

If I were him I would leave the software alone until he becomes better acquainted with the machine

i would love to have one of those to f**k with.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

When dealing with hardware that existed for basically one OS generation, drivers are going to be crazy specific. Already made an image of the drive on the Oce for backup sake and will probably convert it to a solid-state HDD for reliability sake. At best, an OS 'upgrade' might be shoe-horning Windows Vista on the thing at a huge hit to reliability (and one could argue that it would be a downgrade). Getting 64-bit drivers would basically be impossible, so would kneecap you on any current OS. Embedded systems be like that.

I am definitely going to scope out the system interface where it talks to the printer. The Scitex printers were fascinating, but the OS seemed to be somewhat custom.

If using an old vinyl cutter or something that just speaks HPGL over a serial connection, the operating system is almost a non-issue as long as you can generate the code and stream it to the port.