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Thanks for the link Border, I'll try that process on the next one. SSG, I agree that it's easier to wrap around the handles but it looks so much better to go under them. It holds up better that way too. No seams, No seams, No seams, No seams...

No holes, body side molding came off in less than a minute. Anybody take the door handles off one of these yet? The one we did was only a partial, so I worked around them but for a full wrap, I'd definitely want them out. They look like a real pain... maybe I'm missing something simple.

If it's textured, yes.

Lawyers, engineers and politicians... oh my!

I agree, it's only the last shot that appears that way. Otherwise it looks ok. I think the critiques here have some merrit, but I've done plenty of projects that were not layed out to my satisfaction. Sometimes it's out of your hands... as long as the guy who signed the check is happy you're...

The colors look great. Nice Job!

John- The problem with your suggestion (besides it being based on common sense) is that it's a small municipality that subs all the permitting out to a third party... and the guy in charge of it is an a#% h&@#. He's on a typical Barney Fife power trip. He won't meet with me or give me any...

Dan- I understand what you are saying. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I would be willing to bet that most of those horrible installs were performed by the business owner to save paying for installation. Like I said, I don't have a problem with reasonable hoops to jump through. There's no...

I've done it with PPG clear and had no problems, but it was a very small piece of chrome vinyl on a large panel that saw limited exposure to the elements. If it's a larger piece of vinyl, I'd worry about the clear adhering to it. There's no mechanical bond there. Also, I'd spray a few light...

That's what I would do.

imagep- that's pretty much where I stand. One guy can pick this whole sign up. The concrete in one hole weighs multiples of what the sign does. I have no problem running a project like this by the local officials to make sure it's within their sq ft guidelines and passes a "common sense" test...

"If you want to do business in that city, you have to do it by the code." This will probably be the last time I do. "The customer should have to pony up for the extra time to permit and eng. drawings if needed." But they shouldn't. That's my point. It's an unnecessary waste of time. " As for...

It's because in this particular case, it's a waste of time and resources. Most of the municipalities and engineers are far more concerned with collecting a fee than they are anything else. I've installed hundreds of these in the last 17 years. None of them have failed. Me AND my customer are...

Like I said, this isn't a 30' monument. Common sense and 17 years in the biz goes a long way in the real world. Not so much when you're a self-righteous pencil pusher with little or no actual experience. 2 weeks ago, we installed exactly the same sign with exactly the same materials in exactly...

OK, I need some help with a calculation, not a peanut gallery. The naysayers here, as well as the bureaucrats and engineers (whose primary cause in these matters is to justify their own existence), are applying zero COMMON SENSE. The frost line is 36", I just helped my buddy build a pole...

They're not requiring an engineer to do it, nor should they be. It's absurd to make an $800 sign into a $1500 sign for the sake of an unnecessary paper trail. Enough with the semantics of it, does anybody have a solution for me? Is there an online calculator?

signage- The sign is 4'x4'! Its' not a 30' monument. I submitted the plan to bury the posts 30" in a 9" hole and fill it with concrete (overkill). That wasn't good enough for them. IT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND.

That's not an option on this one, and it shouldn't have to be. These regulations are getting out of hand.

I'm working on a project that amounts to a 4'x4' sign to be installed on 4"x4" posts with the sign face 2' from the ground (6' overall height) with no lighting. I made the mistake of contacting the powers that be. I now have twice as much time in dealing with bureaucrats as will be spent on...

I stayed late to install this on my buddy's 09 Yamaha AR230 tonight. Oracal 3951 & 290G lam.