ADA Bathroom signs

[Gino]

CES.... in most cases, blind or legally blind people are accompanied by someone who isn't visually impaired when going to a specific location. Same as most people in wheelchairs are assisted in some form. Also, many large buildings have staff, just for helping someone who got there on their own.

However, your biggest waste of money and time is ADA. Not that I think they aren't necessary, but only a fraction of people can read this form of abbreviated #2 braille. That's why you don;t see many people using it or even attempting to us it.

 

[CES020]

CES.... in most cases, blind or legally blind people are accompanied by someone who isn't visually impaired when going to a specific location. Same as most people in wheelchairs are assisted in some form. Also, many large buildings have staff, just for helping someone who got there on their own.

That's my point exactly. Most blind people don't go wandering around all over the place. They are escorted by people that can help them. So if they have someone to help them that can see, what's the point in making signs that they will never read. It's insanity.

I'm not suggesting to ignore visually impaired people, but point something in place that works for them instead of the ancient practices we are forced to use that don't get used and aren't practical by ANY stretch of the imagination.

 

[fixtureman]

I know some blind people and they do walk around by themselves some have dogs but it is hard teach a dog to read and speak the room.

 

[visual800]

Bruce, do you have the attached regulations?

I don't have everything memorized, but I know the text is supposed to be uppercase and located below the pictograms.

Not trying to pick your signs apart, but don't want to see you have to remove any signs either.

No I dont read regulations, I thought they were cool and so did the customer. IMO if you cant read what those signs say and you cant make out the girl from the boy maybe you dont need to go out in public Im just sayin. This compnay had a city inspection I guess he found no issues with them

 

[704signs]

Another pet peeve of mine is evacuation maps ... Shouldn't they at least have the routes in a raised text for the blind? and there is no standard placement for those. Another thing I see all the time is the orientation of the map seldom matches the location where its to be installed ( Map upside down ) Which in my opinion kinda defeats the whole purpose of a evacuation map.

 

[visual800]

I personaly think the govt has gone way overboard on the handicapped stuff. I mean I understand they need to motivate and they need to function as I would if I were handicapped but dear God it is just over the top and too much. Look at handicapped spaces in shopping centers. What used to be about 2 is now 20 and full of mostly folks that I dont see what their handcap is

As far as evacuation maps being in braille whats the point if they cant be found. I had to place apt door signs 3 stories up that required braille. I thought to myself if your blind and GOT to the apts and somehow made it to the 3rd floor you should have had some help cause NOTHING before that had braille on it

This is how govt does though. They always go too far with everything. And each year its another rulle and another 5 parking spaces

 

[J Hill Designs]

now 20 and full of mostly folks that I dont see what their handcap is

my guess would be 70% obesity

 

[Gino]

Ever look at a parking lot near the end of the day and see all the motorized carts all over the parking lot ??

One would think if they are left behind in the parking lot, they should be in the vicinity of the handicapped spaces.... all 20 of them, but no-o-o-o-o-o.................. they're all over out to the ends where handicapped aren't supposed to be. Guess there's a lota free-loaders sporting around the WalMarts and Costcos. Vvvrrrrmmmmmm............

 

[gnemmas]

The regulations (laws) are enacted by legislators which are legally bribed by lobbyists.

In California, trial lawyers sponsored a state version ADA that allowed anybody to sue for non-compliance, no need to proof damage, with first offense fine of $8,000. I had so many small business owners came in to update their ADA signage, prompted by lawyer's letters that demand $4,000 to settle in lieu of a lawsuit.

Finally, last month, the legislator past a bill to give 30 days for compliance before fine. (in line with the Federal ADA). Thus taking away the profit incentive for unscupulous lawyers.

The moral of this story is: it is not the government that we should be worry about if we made ADA signs that is not in compliance, it is some lawyers that are looking to make a killing!