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Graphic Extremes

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So I updated to the latest version of Illustrator and now they want you to use project folder for saving files to the cloud. I used to just save the files to the cloud without the folders. Does anyone else see this or is it just me..

Need to start saving to a different location I guess, find a new service.

What is everyone using to save all their files to, either hosted or self hosted
 
MikePro

MikePro

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i have noticed they keep trying to default you to cloudsave.
not a fan of the cloud, nor the subscription plans to hold your data hostage, so we save everything locally.

google remote desktop is free, so I just utilize that to access files when needed.
 
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caribmike

caribmike

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Graphic Extremes said:
So I updated to the latest version of Illustrator and now they want you to use project folder for saving files to the cloud. I used to just save the files to the cloud without the folders. Does anyone else see this or is it just me..

Need to start saving to a different location I guess, find a new service.

What is everyone using to save all their files to, either hosted or self hosted
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To be honest, I have never saved anything to the Adobe cloud service ever. I save everything to my own 48 TB server. I use the most recent versions of everything in the Creative Suite.
 
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TradeBalanceBoss

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We never save to the cloud. Self hosted servers, VPN access, totally secure. Lots of RAM for quick file loads of huge files.

There are many flavors of servers from simple to crazy advanced. Starting at simple would be a mini PC and loading it with your favorite flavor of server setup. I'm a fan of opensource but that takes a bit more work but once set up there is no bloat because you tuned it to be exactly what you want/need.
 
caribmike

caribmike

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I use a QNAP NAS server with four drives. Its extremely easy to use and everyone can access all the files.
I do use an automated off site back up service as well which backs up three times a day. Unlimited storage for $9.99/month gives me peace of mind.
 
caribmike

caribmike

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Graphic Extremes said:
What site are you using for off site backups.. Unlimited storage for $9.99/month gives me peace of mind.
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www.crashplan.com

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CrashPlan provides data resiliency through secure, scalable, and comprehensive backup solutions. We help organizations recover from worst-case scenarios.
www.crashplan.com www.crashplan.com
 
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Waaaaaaiiit a second.... https://www.thehansindia.com/news/c...c-growth-hub-with-major-gcc-expansion-1013780

"Since acquiring Parablu, CrashPlan has doubled its headcount and now employs approximately 100 people in India. With the GCC in Bengaluru set to become a major innovation hub, the company plans to double its workforce as it enters its next phase of growth. In addition to engineering, sales and support, the Bengaluru GCC will serve as a hub for core capability functions across AI innovation, product development, and R&D. Dan Beer, CEO of CrashPlan said, “We are focusing on India expansion and Bengaluru will be key to performing various important capability functions as we target a significant share of the Indian market. Bulk of our hiring will be in Bengaluru as we move towards becoming an AI-enabled data protection company.”

I don't like what I see anymore. That is why you can never trust any cloud company. What exactly are they doing with the data when they outsource it all to India. India scams our elderly to the tune of billions of dollars a year. ($12.5 billion to fraud in 2024 https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/new...g-jump-reported-losses-fraud-125-billion-2024 )
 
WildWestDesigns

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I'm firmly in the camp of using one own's NAS (I prefer TrueNAS, there are others). I do have about 4 NASs set up, all are at different locations (nice thing about a semi big family as well).

As the meme goes, there is no such thing as "the cloud", it's just someone else's computer. Bare in mind, even if one goes thru an American based company, doesn't mean that they don't use servers in out of country locations and subject to their rules/laws etc, so be very careful here.

Keep in mind as well, most companies are defaulting to having people save in the cloud (MS is doing this as well at the OS level, so in my mind, even worse), I'm not surprise that individual companies are. Especially considering that we are in the perpetually connected computing phase. Given the rise of WASM, I would imagine that we start to see traditional desktop applications be online/offsite browser based applications as well. Plus side, truly totally cross platform, downside, going through someone else's servers for everything.

MikePro said:
google remote desktop is free, so I just utilize that to access files when needed.
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Not to sure that I would go that route, when do have OSS options available. RustDesk would probably be the one that I would choose (although not a fan of the Rust language, but that's another topic) if I were to do that. I don't really like having things tied to service accounts, but that could just be me.
 
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WildWestDesigns said:
I'm firmly in the camp of using one own's NAS (I prefer TrueNAS, there are others). I do have about 4 NASs set up, all are at different locations (nice thing about a semi big family as well).

As the meme goes, there is no such thing as "the cloud", it's just someone else's computer. Bare in mind, even if one goes thru an American based company, doesn't mean that they don't use servers in out of country locations and subject to their rules/laws etc, so be very careful here.

Keep in mind as well, most companies are defaulting to having people save in the cloud (MS is doing this as well at the OS level, so in my mind, even worse), I'm not surprise that individual companies are. Especially considering that we are in the perpetually connected computing phase. Given the rise of WASM, I would imagine that we start to see traditional desktop applications be online/offsite browser based applications as well. Plus side, truly totally cross platform, downside, going through someone else's servers for everything.
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I'm in the process of converting all of our machines to linux based. One machine at a time and using Windows in a virtual environment with dual graphic card machines. There is literally no way to fully protect your data in Apple or Windows machines, they are all going "AI" (basically reading everything on your machine and reporting it back to cloud servers).
 
WildWestDesigns

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TarrifBoy123 said:
I'm in the process of converting all of our machines to linux based. One machine at a time and using Windows in a virtual environment with dual graphic card machines. There is literally no way to fully protect your data in Apple or Windows machines, they are all going "AI" (basically reading everything on your machine and reporting it back to cloud servers).
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Oh no, everyone is probably cringing right now. You mentioned Linux. I have been on Linux on bare metal since Win 7 was new. I use Arch by the way.

That's probably the way that I would suggest switching, but at some point have to cut the cord and not even have VMs running. As long as there is that safety net, totally switching is hard. But that was how I started off, hobby/personal projects, I used Linux variants of software and for professional work especially if there was a time crunch, I would fire up the VM. After awhile, even with a time crunch, once one was familiar with the new workflow, it was no biggie to stay in one environment.

In some ways, ironically, can be more efficient in Linux depending on what one is trying to accomplish. But I can go on and on. It's not for everyone, it just depends on what one is dealing with with customer files, workflow etc, but if one is willing to deal with the teething pains, it actually is a better OS compared to Windows. It's different, but it is better. The only thing Windows has going for it (and even that is dwindling) is 3rd party support. Even that is changing. Wacom supports Linux officially (it's actually better as far as stability goes compared to the Windows variant, don't know about Mac). Dell on their more premium laptops has Linux certified first compared to Windows. Lenovo was the same way, I have a Lenovo workstation rig that I'm using right now, but it was before they were bought.
 
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TarrifBoy123 said:
Here is a pretty extensive review on crashplan https://www.cloudwards.net/crashplan-review/

I like that they are USA based, Minneapolis, Minnesota! https://www.linkedin.com/company/crashplan and in business since 2007! And pivoted towards businesses.
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i am a tech for approx 40 something years. we use crashplan but have NEVER really had to put it to the test. how long does it take to download and bring your stuff back up.

an attorney friend paid for carbonite for years (over a decade, really) and, when it came to the test his disk image wasn't ready for him to access for about 36 hours
this was years ago, i am sure they are much better now, but, the point is you need to ask how soon your data is ready and what format it is stored in

IN A PINCH a windows disk image can be "spun up" as a vm and get you up and running minutes after download is complete
this can be important for real world businesses
 
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netsol

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and, if your data has any real value, it probably shouldn't be entrusted to a $9.99/mo. vendor
you REALLY DO get what you pay for
 
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tulsagraphics

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Graphic Extremes said:
So I updated to the latest version of Illustrator and now they want you to use project folder for saving files to the cloud. I used to just save the files to the cloud without the folders. Does anyone else see this or is it just me..

Need to start saving to a different location I guess, find a new service.

What is everyone using to save all their files to, either hosted or self hosted
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I've used Adobe for a LONG time, and also Dropbox. Unlike Adobe (this may change at some point, if it hasn't already) -- Dropbox uses Delta sync (aka, saving a small change to a 2GB file doesn't require re-uploading the entire 2GBs -- simply a minor update to the part of the file that actually "did" change). So it's super fast.

Dropbox file sync and file sharing are just so fast and easy, and it's very cost-effective. But again, I haven't tried Adobe's cloud storage in a long time. The main reason I got away from the Adobe file management service is because it was a major resource hog.

Since I have multiple computers with Dropbox installed, all files are synced to all computers at all times, which give me an automatic backup option if a computer dies.

In addition to Dropbox I also sync everything to a Synology Diskstation.
 
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