Banner hanging suggestions-Need a fix and a solid solution

[sinclairgraphics1]

So this banner was for a one day event, it's a 3'x18' double-sided 13oz banner(2 printed pieces hemmed and grommeted together). The problem was the weight of course causing it to sag in the middle. The solution was a steel cable run at the top and then zip ties to straighten it out. The client however did not want this and didn't understand why we couldn't just "stretch" it. Obviously that wouldn't work with that material. They want another banner that reads "Leasing" and don't want any cables or anything like that used. I'm thinking to make a banner with pole pockets at the top and bottom and run conduit through it. It will be printed true double-sided to save weight(decided to outsource that part).Also going to make the banner 3'x15' because 18' was to big between the girders. What about a poplin dye-sub banner? I could stretch that but it would probably fade fairly quick. Any other suggestions?

 

[Christian @ 2CT Media]

What we've done in the past is sew in webbing on the top and bottom and left about 2' of webbing on each side. We then attached ratcheting cam locks (2 on each side) to the poles amd ratcheted them tight. The church still uses this solution for all the banners we print as it works well. We got the cams from a boat supply company keyston bros or perfectfit, can't remember which as they both carry it.

 

[bulldozer]

maybe a wood frame? could always wrap it tight around the poles and bolt it in! haha

 

[sinclairgraphics1]

What we've done in the past is sew in webbing on the top and bottom and left about 2' of webbing on each side. We then attached ratcheting cam locks (2 on each side) to the poles amd ratcheted them tight. The church still uses this solution for all the banners we print as it works well. We got the cams from a boat supply company keyston bros or perfectfit, can't remember which as they both carry it.

That sounds like it would work pretty well with the webbing and ratcheting. I'm almost to the point of turning this job down just because of how the client has been. They are however a pretty large company so it would be to my advantage to keep them happy. I'll have to look that place up and see what I can find out for the cam locks or any kind of ratcheting system.

 

[sinclairgraphics1]

It would be great to see a picture of your banner installed this way so I can show my client. Do you have something you could send?

Thanks

 

[jfiscus]

Sew webbing in top and bottom, take 4 ratchet straps and wrap them around the poles (to/from the same eyes) and tighten them down.
Make the banner fit within the pole width of course! (make it about 6" narrower actually)

 

[neil_se]

Have ropes sewn in top and bottom.

http://www.signs101.com/forums/showthread.php?116301-Installing-a-15ft-Banner&p=1184718#post1184718

 

[MikePro]

pole pockets & ratchets/straps.

 

[Desert_Signs]

While I'm sure that those particular poles (they look like steel C) are plenty strong enough to stretch the banner tight - be cautious when your customer demands 'tight'.

I had a customer that wanted a 4' x 40' banner strung between two light poles (3x3 square tube, thin gauge). I told them I wouldn't do it. I'd be happy to print a banner for them, but if they wanted me to install it, I would only install it on the building. They said they would put it up themselves, the poles were plenty strong enough. Nevermind the fact that the windload on the banner alone was likely too much for the poles.

Their maintenance guy ran 5/16" wire rope between the poles and used cable tensioners at both ends to pull the wire taught. Well, he bent the poles. Like noticeably bent. Put the banner up and the poles bent more. Tensioned it more. Poles bent more.

Long story shorter - they ended up with bent poles, no banner, and a pretty expensive bill. Because in the first windstorm, one of his cable clamps let go. Did I mention this was an automotive dealership? Did I mention the banner was stretched right across the front row of brand new cars? Did you know a 40' long banner whipping around with 5lbs of steel at the end will really mess up a row of cars?


Sure am glad I didn't put that one up.....

 

[Z SIGNS]

I walk away fast from customers and jobs that don't make any sense.

The moment they insist on some weird install or tell us how to fab and install
it's no thank you good bye.

What's their problem with a cable ?

Oh since i looked at the picture those poles look pretty beefy.

If it's double sided you could make one long banner and wrap the poles like a corsett

 

[sinclairgraphics1]

I walk away fast from customers and jobs that don't make any sense.

The moment they insist on some weird install or tell us how to fab and install
it's no thank you good bye.

What's their problem with a cable ?

Oh since i looked at the picture those poles look pretty beefy.

If it's double sided you could make one long banner and wrap the poles like a corsett

Yeah they're heavy duty steel beams. I'm thinking about turning down the installation since everything with the job has been a pain. There are cars that park under that banner for one, the poles are up about 18' and they won't budget to rent a scissor lift, I've already discounted the first banner, and they seem unsatisfied with everything.