How many of you do work for Fire and Emergency?

[natedawg9640]

Hi guys,

I was one post come up a little while ago questioning details on some fire truck graphics. Just curious who else out there is dealing with that market. Or who isn't that would like to be? Post up and discuss what you do for local depts.

 

[TheSnowman]

We got duped into something for the firetrucks that I'd never do again. We had logos that they wanted to use, but the company that sells the fire trucks has to do all the work themselves, so we had to print on their material (gold leaf) and they didn't hardly give us enough, and then getting payment was horrible...it just never ended.

We mainly do stuff for our Emergency Management/Homeland Security agency here. The cops do their own stuff, and the Fire Dept buys them premade.

 

[Jillbeans]

I've done work for a lot of local fire companies.
There's a sign shop near me (and they do nice work!) which specializes in this.
So I don't like to tap their market unless my locals ask me.
I do both paint and sign gold, and very rarely, gilding.
Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get these guys to try anything new.
I've only ever had one bad dealing, and that was via a bogus insurance job type thing.
These are the only pix I can find today.
Love.....Jill

 

[letterman7]

Not too much work for the local fire departments. As Kraig said, most of the new trucks that are purchased come already gilded from the factory. I've done a couple "fix-its" when a panel was damaged, and one complete re-do when one company bought a used truck and both of those were companies that were local and never had an issue with payment or timing. I used Sign Gold on both counts, as I was able to 'upsell' them on the ease of replacement should something get scratched. When it comes to those rear chevrons, I'll let that to other shops that specialize in emergency equipment. I simply don't want to be bothered playing with reflective over diamondplate in many cases!

 

[natedawg9640]

Not too much work for the local fire departments. As Kraig said, most of the new trucks that are purchased come already gilded from the factory. I've done a couple "fix-its" when a panel was damaged, and one complete re-do when one company bought a used truck and both of those were companies that were local and never had an issue with payment or timing. I used Sign Gold on both counts, as I was able to 'upsell' them on the ease of replacement should something get scratched. When it comes to those rear chevrons, I'll let that to other shops that specialize in emergency equipment. I simply don't want to be bothered playing with reflective over diamondplate in many cases!

if they have diamondplate on the rear, we don't lay reflective on it...
here's what i reccomend for that if you need to sell a product... i personally helped develope it. http://www.diamondiamonds.com/

 

[round man]

Over the years I did well over a hundred firetrucks for a dealer in South Carolina. It included alot of gold leaf ,hand lettering and some pictorial work on some malteese crosses. Then one day the dealership bought a couple of rolls of sign gold and a plotter deciding they could do it themselves cheaper than they had been paying us. This lasted about 6 months till they lost most of their customer base and went under,.....haven't done alot since then save the occasional Vol. Fire Dept. here and there

 

[Mosh]

We do lots of local rural fire depts. They usually get used trucks from bigger towns. I tell them to have the old letering removed and I come in with refelctive or sign-gold.
Not much real leafing, as they are most of the time, on a shoe-string budget.

 

[Craig Sjoquist]

I've been knocking on a Fireman's hall here near by trying to get them to redo the sign. no luck yet, but they have a older Fire truck outside that was nice looking now vandals have it broken up, sad .

 

[SqueeGee]

We do a fair amount for public safety agencies.

Does diamondiamonds infringe on scenedots' patent?

 

[natedawg9640]

We do a fair amount for public safety agencies.

Does diamondiamonds infringe on scenedots' patent?

nope. different material, different application technique, and different shape. Diamondiamonds is patented in itself.

 

[SCENEdots]

SCENEdots patent

SCENEdots holds two US Patents; USD623,317S (round design) &
USD623,316S (square/diamond design) as well as being a
trademarked name and logo. This information can be verified at
www.uspto.gov (United States Patent and Trademark Office).

I encourage anyone who is considering copying an idea or product,
regardless the industry, to do their own investigation and research
in lieu of depending on a second party opinion.

My suggestion is to confirm the above information as well as
determing if Diamond Diamonds as any legal product protection
of their own.

 

[natedawg9640]

i might not know how to run the website but I can't find the patents you specified. I thought they were still pending? Actually, last i heard is that you (i presume) and Mr. Fienburg were still duking it out. It's clearly a different product, made differently, with different installation techniques, made from different materials.

Admittedly, have at it I personally have no preference who is the "victor" I was merely making a suggestion.

 

[SqueeGee]

It took me a little bit to figure out how to search for it also. You have to drop the "US" at the front and the "S" at the back of the number. Here they are:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...s1=D623,316.PN.&OS=PN/D623,316&RS=PN/D623,316

and here:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...s1=D623,317.PN.&OS=PN/D623,317&RS=PN/D623,317

 

[Billct2]

So they have the patent on reflective circles, and squares?

 

[Malkin]

Someone should tell Rick...

 

[SignTech]

Did a bunch of Fire EMS and Cop cars ... and served myself for 21 years

 

[Sideshow]

Ive been a Volunteer FF and EMT since 1993.

Certified in PA, FL , and GA

So with that, I managed to secure the Sheriff cars in 2 counties and the FD in one for all their vinyl

( dont charge the sheriffs though never know when I need to get myself, wife or friend out of a ticket )