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WildWestDesigns

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they did this to copiers 25 years ago
you can't copy currency, bearer bonds, etc
you simply use an older machine (the law firms went crazy for the first year or two, because detecting notary seals, etc made MANY documents forbidden that should not have been
No, not quite. Everything that you mentioned in those would be instantly recognizable and easy to have in software, don't print that. This right now, as we have already seen, quite a few parts that would have no issue in their application share a lot of geometry of parts that would be no-no. Both get blocked.

Also, what it is blocking is very well defined (currency, bearer bonds etc), with 3D printing, this will be an ever expanding list, so it's dynamic, not fixed. Very broad in scope versus the very well defined scope of the copier example.
 
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netsol

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i am sure they will also have a digital ID like the copiers.
a microdot embedded with your serial number so counterfeits are traceable
 

WildWestDesigns

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i am sure they will also have a digital ID like the copiers.
a microdot embedded with your serial number so counterfeits are traceable
Yes, they would, serial number that gets printed with the prints as well. I think the discussions were to happen inside the print itself, not on the outside.
 

Vassago

Been here a while..
Problem is.. This isn't about guns.. It's about control..

A "Ghost Gun" is ANYTHING without a serial number - so a REAL gun that's had its number filed off is classed as a ghost gun - not just 3d printed ones.

Think not being able to print ANYTHING without permission. It's DRM for your own stuff..

Want to print a gear for your washing machine. Sorry.. That will be $29.99 - why? Because a 30 tooth gear has been registered by xyz Corp.

You can make a gun from a bit of pipe - plastic is just a casing.. Yet they want to stop innovation?

How many politicians actually understand what a 3d printer is, let alone how to stop one printing "Bad" stuff.
 

Vassago

Been here a while..
my 8 year old grandson has a 3d printer. he does the leggo things. I am sure he will get into making a handgun when one of his friends finds out about it. getting the software will be the problem because that is what the government keeps close tabs on. It takes a long time to make something of that size.
You mentioned lego.. Nope.. Won't be able to print that.. DRM blocked.. That's the point of the law.. It's control.. Not safety.
 

WildWestDesigns

Active Member
You mentioned lego.. Nope.. Won't be able to print that.. DRM blocked.. That's the point of the law.. It's control.. Not safety.
That's actually going to depend on the block or the theme, or lack thereof. Not everything still is protected for lego, some things yes, but not all. However, ironically, it may be as simple as them paying (or anyone) to have their stuff on the list to get blocked from printing regardless if they still have IP protection or not. Usually it's about deep pockets versus any real legal leg to stand on.

I do have to wonder how about individual parts or even kits, how that will apply in this regard. After all, not all kit cars meet or required to meet the "Clean Air Act", depending on the local jurisdiction and their requirements.

However, that thesis is still sound, that is the ultimate goal. "You will own nothing and be happy". Most politicians don't really know squat about tech in general. Combination of them being mostly octogenarians or if they are young(er), probably just saw tech as a means to an end, nothing more and know very little about what has been abstracted away. Last I looked, there were maybe 4 or 5 politicians that had some CS related degree. It's amazing that the people tasked with making laws are far below the threshold of "experts" to actually make good law. Ironically, this also extends to the general population, the "if you have nothing to hide, shouldn't be afraid of this", is actually a disingenuous statement. That's just how it's been sold to get those that go more off of emotion compared to anything else.
 
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