Layering Multiple Decals

[Dentafrice]

I have an order coming up that's giving me a fit. I don't usually do multi-colors for bulk order (250-500).

It's two colors, silver and red. Setup like this:

--- Silver ----
--- Red ----
--- Silver ----

What's the best way to do this? Registration marks/No Reg marks?

Should I do them one at a time, or sheet by sheet, two at a time?

Need some tips from the pros!

Thanks in advance.

- Caleb

 

[omgsideburns]

..why use silver twice?

 

[iSign]

you want meaningful replies, without wasting other peoples time guessing what you are doing?

show the art

 

[Dentafrice]

Sorry, didn't mean to waste other people's time. Was running back and forth between the computer and was waiting on the picture from my cell phone -> computer.

 

[omgsideburns]

oh, i'd print and cut that on an edge.. or just deal with the waste and cut the silver to size, and stick the red on it but wouldn't want all that extra labor.

 

[Terremoto]

Use weed boxes to your advantage. It may use slightly more vinyl but the production time goes way down.

Cut out a sheet of the background material with a weed box around it. Weed it but don't mask it.

Take the foreground vinyl with the exact same size weed box around the individual graphics. Weed, mask and cut it to the weed box.

Apply that to your unmasked background vinyl and then cut those out.

Ready to apply two color vinyl decals in multiples of thousands.

Dan

 

[Dentafrice]

I never thought of doing it with the weed box. I always don't think and just weed it too.. some best advice I've seen!

Thanks!

 

[iSign]

so, all the silver is still on the same layer.. that's good

yes, use registration marks.. as for one or several at a time.. we don't know sizes, but it all comes down to what you are capable of...

if you use a light table & are a meticulous careful professional, I'd think you could do 5 or 10 at a time, which requires wasting more red, to space them further apart... but I would probably do that

have you got a good system for doing layered work, even if this quantity is new?
You want the transfer tape of the second color to be the final tape... and once you lay the second color... it's taped, and you're done... right? So for that, you would usually space the red as large as the silver anyway...

 

[john1]

lol that shop is right up the road from me. Good luck layering that many

 

[Dentafrice]

Figured out an awesome way and never even realized it. I might document it up later. Makes layering them a piece of cake.

Has to do with my electric stapler once you get them lined up.. thanks guys!

 

[briankb]

Are they using these as bumper stickers or something else?

If it's bumper stickers I think you should have them printed.

 

[JR's]

Use weed boxes to your advantage. It may use slightly more vinyl but the production time goes way down.

Cut out a sheet of the background material with a weed box around it. Weed it but don't mask it.

Take the foreground vinyl with the exact same size weed box around the individual graphics. Weed, mask and cut it to the weed box.

Apply that to your unmasked background vinyl and then cut those out.

Ready to apply two color vinyl decals in multiples of thousands.

Dan

this is good stuff. :U Rock:

thanks

JR

 

[Dentafrice]

Are they using these as bumper stickers or something else?

If it's bumper stickers I think you should have them printed.

Die-cut decals for windows, so not really the typical definition of bumper stickers I would say?

 

[HulkSmash]

If the silver wasn't metallic, i'd print like the other suggested.

 

[rushworks graphics]

you should sub it out to someone with a gerber edge. we have one and it prints silvers/metalics etc. fred is a merchant member on here and he has an edge, he could quote you on these and it would save you soooo much time!

 

[Jackpine]

Ditto! Print red on silver, laminate and contour cut.

I would just print red on silver....it would be cheaper!

 

[Dentafrice]

Anyone do this that can give me a quote, already priced them out for layered.. never subbed out this work before..

 

[Tim Aucoin]

Assuming you got that sample from your customer and that's the way they've asked it to be produced? I'd say printing isn't an option unless your customer is open to suggestions? I'd be curious as to the method you've figured out. If it works well for you, please do post it!

 

[rushworks graphics]

fred is a merchant member on here and he has an edge, he could quote you on these and it would save you soooo much time!

pm fred and ask him for a quote.

 

[Custom_Grafx]

Screenprint or Edge^ or print on clear and lam onto silver vinyl if you have ecosol/latex.

 

[Crossbones]

I agree with Isign. I have personally done 900 layer decals before and currently doing 600 layered ones. Depending on your cutter, all you have to do is use registration marks. Depending on the size of the decal and your cutter. Stack your artwork in rows with reg marks and use weed boxes to make the weeding easier. Apply you mask on one color, pull the backing off just the reg marks and line them up with the 2nd color, then tape it. Pull your backing off and squeegee it on the 2nd color. Cut them out individually after your done and your finished.

 

[Malkin]

I have personally done 900 layer decals before...

Assuming cast vinyl that works out to 1.8" thick! What's your sq ft rate for that?