Stupid people hunting season….
For me, the principle of 'don't take money away from people against their will' trumps the public education system, that (as has been said before) costs too much and does not provide results. If a parent pulls their money out of a school because it is underperforming, that is a market signal for them to do better. Just like a private business that sells a crappy product, if customers don't like what you are selling, then they will stop buying it. Right now, schools are legally protected from any liability for being garbage. If your kid stops going to school, the cops will show up at your door. If you stop paying the taxes that fund the school, the cops show up at your door. They can be as awful and neglectful of your kids as they want, and you as a taxpayer are forced to pay for it - that's awful.
So be it.
When I was younger, I thought that being a good person was all about intent. If you went from moment to moment without evil intent, without wanting to hurt other people or infringe on their rights, then anything bad that came about from your actions was not your fault, because you did not have mens rea. But, as I've gotten older, I see that the real measure of whether you are doing right or wrong is the result. For instance, there are stray cats where I live, and they are malnourished. This undernourishment is suffering. Some of my neighbors have good hearts and they feed the stray cats. This gives the cats enough energy to have more cats. Now, there are even more stray malnourished cats and more suffering. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Yes. If I you don't have children or if your kids have already graduated, you should not pay any money towards those schools. Just like if you cancel your Amazon Prime, you should not be forced to continue to pay for the good of the people who still use it.
My point was that good intentions do not equal good results. Pouring money into a failed solution won't make it a better solution. I think we need to try something different.
This gets better and better. So you have no kids or kids that are in school or graduated but somehow you have this expert knowledge that schools are failing. Since you feel this way then it must be true? You just sound like the rest of the noise I hear coming from people with a chapped ass.
Just curious, if you think with no basis that $14k is too much then what should the cost per head be? Why? Show your work so we can all understand how a sign guy knows more than the people that are actually tasked with budgeting.
Private schools are chomping at the bit to get that sweet government money. They, like many other industries ahem...... electric cars, will really twist some stuff up to paint the picture of why they deserve free money. The private hospital system is doing a fantastic job, couldn't be any better so why not move on to schools next?
Arkansas is starting that this school year, so we'll see in the next 6 months how it's turned out. Only problem I have is that it isn't income based, so basically all it's doing is paying the folks who already send their kids to private school, which are, surprise, doing just fine already.
It's not expert knowledge. I am simply reading the statistics provided by credible sources and making an assessment.
Since I have the statistics, I feel confident in my assessment. It is not about feeling anything; it is about looking at data and coming to a conclusion.
Honestly, this is the ultimate distinction. Should you be forced (under threat of violence or imprisonment) to pay for things that you did not agree to pay for, had no say in and do not benefit from? Regardless of your assessment of how needed it is or how much good the money will do, do you have the right to take from some to give to others? Do I have the right to take money out of your bank account and give it to the poor? Do you have the right to decline to donate to a charity, or can they just take the money they need straight out of your wallet? Is there a limit to how much money they can appropriate? Can they take it all and make you work for free? But, what if that money will go to a really really really good cause?
That is a decision to be made between parents and whatever educators they choose to hire. I don't believe that any third party should decide what a price 'should be'. Let the market figure it out.
The market has decided, pay is the #1 reason that they are having a difficult time retaining educators and finding new people that want to enter the field. They have also been saying for years that the lack of funding hurts educational outcomes this is from lack of funding for specific teaching needs like gifted, music, tshop classes etc etc. Your statistics back this up as well. So maybe it would be a good idea to listen to what the people who have devoted their careers to schooling, went to college for education, went on to get Masters and Phd's in their field or in child development, the business minds behind education on the administrative side, the federal dept of education and so on. They ALL say funding yet you people conveniently ignore this and spout off stats with no discussion on causality.
So does pizza and chinese foodI know it really contributes to ............................................................................................................ diabetes.
Full Stop, not true, those have been around forever! Diabetes is what, 100 years old? Get outta here!
Not sounding rude or anything, but those are the rules of this country. There are 194 others out there. People make the decision everyday this isn't the right place for them. Really if you are complaining about it and feel so strongly, you're the only one to blame for not changing your situation.
Whoa nellie.......................................... where'd ya get them thar stats, pardner ??
in a fortune cookie