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Onyx 22 / Thrive wont auto rotate when nesting?

balstestrat

Problem Solver
Well that's disappointing to hear. My Advantage subscription runs out next week and I was planning on upgrading.

ONYXtechtips if we upgrade to v24 and then our Advantage subscription runs out, can we still go back to v22?
Ask for the license update already if you haven't. Don't let it slide too late.
The installation won't touch your 22 and you can always switch back.

And it's not like you must use the auto rotation.
 
Ask for the license update already if you haven't. Don't let it slide too late.
The installation won't touch your 22 and you can always switch back.

And it's not like you must use the auto rotation.
You kind of do, because the system now RIPs 3 times no matter which option you choose. I have yet to find a way to turn off the extra ripping.
 

balstestrat

Problem Solver
You kind of do, because the system now RIPs 3 times no matter which option you choose. I have yet to find a way to turn off the extra ripping.
I just tested with couple files with HP driver and I didn't get triple ripping at any point. Could be some difference with your driver.
Seems as fast as V22 and even the rotate seems pretty quick (doesn't RIP again if I change the setting).

Oh yeah maybe it has to do with the profile resolution being non-square. HP seems to use square resolutions 300x300, 600x600, 1200x1200 etc. so it's probably working for me just like it already worked in V22.
 
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White Haus

Not a Newbie
I can answer that, yes you can.

There are other benefits to 24 that make up for it, its just frustrating with the one step forward two steps back in software.
Cool, thanks. Downloaded v24 today, backed everything up & archived, tried to update and now have to upgrade my physical key. Hopefully they don't stall it enough so I can't update before Advantage runs out....
 

SignMeUpGraphics

Super Active Member
FYI, this appears to have finally been resolved in x25.
I spent a few weeks discussing in detail to the support team how this was broken and should have worked.
They assured me it would be sorted in the next release, and hey presto... here we are :D

Hopefully everyone else gets the same results.
 

BRoche

New Member
I’ve just “upgraded” to V25.0.1 to regain the auto-rotate function — and honestly, it wasn’t worth it. Unless I’ve missed a hidden setting, the new feature rips everything twice (both portrait and landscape). That might suit some workflows, but it’s a serious problem for ours.

If you’re running a printer loaded with 1372, 1524, or 1600 mm media, you already know you can’t print anything wider than what’s loaded. Yet, open a 1300 × 4000 mm file and Onyx still insists on ripping a rotated version you can’t even print or use in “conserve media.”

I handle supplied graphics — complex layouts, 50 to 300+ per job, all different sizes and proportions. Some need rotating, others don’t. In V22, a 273-file job took about 3.5 hours to rip plus an hour of manual rotation and media optimization.
With V25’s “smart” auto-rotate, that same job took 7 hours to rip.

So, while it’s called auto-rotate, it’s anything but smart-rotate.
 

Grizzly

It’s all about your print!
I agree it's not as good as it was. But, in the past it only worked if your printer was set to the same resolution for x&y (600x600, 1440x1440, etc). It is slower now since it's ripping twice but it works on any resolution. This never worked on my flatbeds because they run at 540x1200, 630x1200, & 720x1200. It works now though. I have some of my quicksets to run without the auto rotation know that It's not going to be necessary. But for products that will benefit I have it on. I do wish there was a quick toggle in the properties panel if you find out you need to do it later without having to run it through another quickset.
 
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