Quoting on Router

[Krf1786]

Hello!
I have a zund g3 router and we typically dont do a lot of the same job, but we just got one in thats a repeat and I am trying to gauge what to charge. The job is mainly on 1/2" MDF and some on 1" MDF. Ive calculated that each table is about 30 min in routing time ( not including loading, unloading etc. ). We are trying to figure out whether is best to price based on sq in of each piece, or by total zund routing time. How do you guys go about this??? Thank you!!!

 

[JBurton]

Time + material cost X markup = cost
Include load and unload
Include cleanup, not just of the parts, but of the chips/drops
If I'm quoting something that I haven't ran, I'll get the perimeter length and figure it at the speed needed. ACM is 200ipm, acrylic is 60-90.

 

[Krf1786]

Time + material cost X markup = cost
Include load and unload
Include cleanup, not just of the parts, but of the chips/drops
If I'm quoting something that I haven't ran, I'll get the perimeter length and figure it at the speed needed. ACM is 200ipm, acrylic is 60-90.

the X markup is my issue. Its costing me $40 per board, Im also not sure what our daily upkeep cost is. I ended up doing $.09 per sq inch, which gave me a reasonable quote. Its 30 min of routing, and I added 30 minutes for loading, unloading, cleanup etc. Also factored in the price of bits.

 

[Ian Stewart-Koster]

What about your business overheads? Rates, electricity, depreciation etc, as a separate fixed cost to build in other than a wage, and broken bits/cutters, and sales time and restocking time?

 

[Krf1786]

What about your business overheads? Rates, electricity, depreciation etc, as a separate fixed cost to build in other than a wage, and broken bits/cutters, and sales time and restocking time?

If I had access to all of that, I would be in way better shape regarding this. I guess I can say I'm trying to work with what I got and make the best I can out of it.

 

[MGB_LE]

If I had access to all of that, I would be in way better shape regarding this. I guess I can say I'm trying to work with what I got and make the best I can out of it.

Are you the best person to be estimating/pricing, then? I manage wide format as one of my duties, and I submit time estimates and material suggestions to our estimator, who has rate information to calculate quotes.

 

[JBurton]

X markup is my issue. Its costing me $40 per board

I do 2.5, so that $40 sheet is getting sold for $100. The way I was told when I was a young'n, if you mess something up once, a replacement is covered. If you mess it up twice....

 

[Krf1786]

Are you the best person to be estimating/pricing, then? I manage wide format as one of my duties, and I submit time estimates and material suggestions to our estimator, who has rate information to calculate quotes.

I don't do estimating for the company, I am just trying to learn so I have the capability to do so at some point

 

[Krf1786]

I do 2.5, so that $40 sheet is getting sold for $100. The way I was told when I was a young'n, if you mess something up once, a replacement is covered. If you mess it up twice....

haha yes! Ive heard the same thing about covering a redo. There's also clients who you can charge more than others for as well. Its a complicated task. Doing 1 sheet of whatever is one thing, but we got in a job that has all different sizes, shapes, and different qty's of each piece. We ended up getting the client to accept $.10 per sq inch, so its a nice profit on this one. Its funny how some clients are the "I want to save every penny" and some are " I don't care what it costs me, just get it done in the timeframe I need it in"

 

[Krf1786]

I do 2.5, so that $40 sheet is getting sold for $100. The way I was told when I was a young'n, if you mess something up once, a replacement is covered. If you mess it up twice....

also, Thank you for your input on the 2.5 markup. I appreciate it.

 

[JBurton]

We ended up getting the client to accept $.10 per sq inch, so its a nice profit on this one.

That's an excellent price for cutting some wood! Glad to see you're not racing to the bottom.
Not enough CNC folk on here in my opinion, bring your questions any time, it's a welcome reprieve from clicking and clacking to have something to ponder.

 

[MGB_LE]

I don't do estimating for the company, I am just trying to learn so I have the capability to do so at some point

Cool then you’re definitely on the right track with your curiosity. Thanks for sharing. You might simply be able to ask for access to the information you don’t currently have. Maybe through your curiosity they will provide the access.