John Miller
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Just ordered some metal letters from Gemini.
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Tariff impact, can't get clearer than this
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Johnny Best
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So what does gemini import, aluminum? So that is the surcharge? Expensive for the mounting pattern, they don’t import that, or do they. How big was the plaque, was there other metal letters in volved.
monroesigns
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The mounting pattern was $83.50 - there is at least one page not shown.
John Miller
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The order was for a bunch of.375” 316 stainless letters.
hybriddesign
owner Hybrid Design
We bring in aluminum tent frames and got a big surprise when we tallied up the tariffs on our last shipment and they stacked up to 100% effectively doubling the cost if they frames (we were usually in the 17% range previously). This ads about $150 to our 10x10 pop up tents which were one of our most popular products. This affects our pull up banners and a lot of other display items as pretty much all the frames come from China even if we print the actual printed portions here. It’s been a rough adjustment.
John Miller
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And all the while China was supposed to pay for the tariffs. I import a decent amount of products from China and some sellers are willing to split the tariffs if they feel they will lose a sale. They also have cagey ways of skirting them.
WildWestDesigns
Active Member
I'm pretty sure that there are tariffs with them as well under certain guidelines. I do not think the tariff on all goods has gotten past that suspension, but there still are some goods that are under tariffs.
Have to keep in mind, some places will raise prices on their goods during this time even though they are not affected by tariffs themselves in order to have a scapegoat when the customers complain. Not saying that this is going on in this instance, but it has been known to happen. Just showing a raise in prices in of itself (surcharge is kinda a catchall for a lot of different things, not just tariffs) doesn't necessarily mean that it was directly related to tariffs etc (temporal connects are often the weakest of all connections). Not saying that isn't in this case, just doesn't apply to all cases.
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The exporting country were never going to pay the the tariffs. Trump just lied. The person importing pays them then passes them on to the next customer.
I'm not sure why Americans found it hard to understand. Yes it brings money for the US government, but the US businesses having to import things are the ones paying it!
I wonder now they have been found to be illegal he will cancel them and refund the payments made
Sometimes people get what they vote for
victor bogdanov
Active Member
What do you call it when government steals more than 50% of your labor via the various taxes, can't make a dollar or spends a dollar without getting taxed. Tariffs only add to how much the government takes from us.
victor bogdanov
Active Member
So you like government telling you what you should and shouldn't buy and where you should and shouldn't buy. You don't like freedom to choose yourself?
victor bogdanov
Active Member
Here is a crazy idea to make local manufacturing more competitive:
Cut taxes, stop taking 50%+ of the local manufacturing income
Big government is doing the opposite, taxing even more
victor bogdanov
Active Member
Yea we got more government control and more taxes
WildWestDesigns
Active Member
That is only one way that could be defined as "paying" for something. They could lose market share of the importing country, depending on how big that market share is in their ultimate course of doing business would determine if it's worth their bothering about it or not.
Did they lower their exporting cost in order to bare of some of that in order to still retain market share? Some people will probably automatically say no, but it's hard to say for sure. Prices would have gone up regardless, so the fact that it went up in of itself doesn't mean that the exporter didn't absorb any of the hit.
If I'm not mistaken, some companies have considered moving some operations here stateside to avoid tariffs. That must mean that there is some significant hits that they would incur if they remained overseas. I think Honda has moved more production of their Civic here versus Mexico directly related to tariffs. Audi/Porsche are evaluating coming here as well. Plus, the other countries aren't saints, they run their own tariffs as well, the question is, whose are actually worse?
Now, there are very few countries that have low tariffs (maybe a hand full, maybe a little more), I think there are some on there that rank really low with regard to GDP as well (not all). I'm unaware of us running any trade deficits with those, which is in stark contrast to the ones that we are bickering about in this thread. Problem that I have with trade deficits is that usually is offset with them being invested in something else. The importing country's agriculture, debt etc. I fundamentally do not think that it's best to be more consumers compared to producers. It really hasn't served us all that well over the years.
So there are quite a few other reasons why I would go with tariffs. Especially knowing that even with a full on 100% free trade arrangement, there are market failures. So nothing is without it's concern, it all depends on what one values over something else.
That would be fine if the USA had the production capability, knowhow and manpower to produce everything it needs, but it doesn't and it will take years to set that up.
China has entire cities that just make one product.
For the limited things America can make they have little chance of exporting them when the rest of the world can buy from countries that are not having to pay loads more for their production costs much cheaper.
Whichever way you look at it all the tariffs are doing is making items for the average consumer more expensive
China has entire cities that just make one product.
For the limited things America can make they have little chance of exporting them when the rest of the world can buy from countries that are not having to pay loads more for their production costs much cheaper.
Whichever way you look at it all the tariffs are doing is making items for the average consumer more expensive