US Tariffs, Sigh!

[ikarasu]

If we look at history we can clearly see society going further and further left making the center common sense people look like they are far right. Originally the gays "Just wanted to get married" now here in 2025 we are at "shut up or we will kill you".

"A study led by researchers at Vanderbilt found that 83% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and queer (LGBQ) individuals reported going through adverse childhood experiences such as sexual and emotional abuse, and worse mental health as adults when compared to their heterosexual peers."

Study finds LGBQ people report higher rates of adverse childhood experiences than straight people, worse mental health as adults

ACEs included physical, emotional and sexual abuse; household mental illness, household substance misuse, household domestic violence, having an incarcerated household member, and parental divorce or separation.

news.vumc.org

I'm going to go off on a short limb here and say that the percentage is most likely more than that. To add gasoline to that fire we are having society say it is perfectly normal to think that when you are born a certain sex that you can be the exact opposite.

Sadly this isn't the only backward stuff that people with common sense/critical thinking/normality have to deal with these days.

I think it's cancel culture. People are too afraid to say what they think and feel because others will judge them at best, or try to get them fired or worst.

I feel like the left tried to over correct.... And we ended up where we are now. Who in their right mind really believes 12 year old kids are informed enough to make a decision to have gender reassignments? I can't even sign a form to get my kid a permanent tattoo.... But he can decide to go on hormone blockers and become a girl, which can cause long lasting / permanent damage? I'm betting you even n the left 80-90% of people don't agree with that.... But they're afraid of what will be said to or about them if they said it.

And now I feel like the right is trying to over correct too.... And I just hope before it gets to a point of no return like this cancel culture bullshit, there becomes a breaking point where people on both sides can agree what's going on isn't right, and put a stop to it.


I still firmly believe trump could be a good president that actually brings America forward and fixes a lot of issues it's been having... But people treat him like a king that does not wrong and he's not afraid to act like one. On paper what he's trying to do is great, but giving up freedoms in order to obtain that is just putting the needle in the other direction.

 

[XtremeXccessories]

The government didn't fire him. This was a business decision by his network based on ethics and economics. His show had low ratings and was losing money.

The real issue is celebrating someone's assassination and seeing nothing wrong with that behavior. It's a matter of basic morality and treating others the way you'd want to be treated.

There's an important distinction here: words are not the same as violence, but celebrating actual violence crosses a clear ethical line.

The FCC chair Brenden Carr literally said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way." the same day his show was suspended. Don't pretend like this wasn't some "Would be an awful shame if your business were to burn to the ground" mafia-type shit.

 

[ikarasu]

I have never seen the left cry so hard for anyone but the craziest people. This in itself is very telling.

Where was your speech when Tucker Carlson or Roseanne Barr got fired? Jimmy Kimmel has actually only been suspended. Tell your lefty side (don't pretend your aren't) not to cancel first and then maybe you will have a horse to ride. I'll wait...

Here is your list ikarasu:
Jimmy Kimmel FAFO
Saint George Floyd whos mural got struck by lightening
Rioter who got shot by Kyle Rittenhouse in self defense
Juicy Smolett and his whole "Maga Country" theater
Maryland Man who is now in Africa

Kimmel actually used to be funny:

The Kimmel slot should be offered to Adam Corolla

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I'm not left... Nor am I right, not do I consider myself center really. I've lived in Canada for 4x as long as I've had my US citizenship... I've voted once, and that was in an American election, and funny enough, for trump. Canada doesn't have Democrats / Republicans - we somewhat have a left and a right, but it's still different than USA's. were not as... Us vs them as you guys, they still work together... But it's mainly in compromises, and I'd say they're further left and further right when it comes to policies and politics, which is why I don't follow or identify as either. I follow what I think is right, I don't care if it's the right or left that does It, I don't care if I call a Republican president the worst thing that could happen to America, and then the next day do the same to a democrat one. My alignment is "for the people", which is why I'm still a firm believer in praising someone when they do something right, and calling them out when they do something wrong.... No matter the side of the isle they're on.

These threads were started due to tarrifs, so no matter what the focus is going to be on trump. But I've praised Kirk.... I've called out people who are saying shit things about him, I've pointed out some of Trump's policies I agree with, and a lot I don't. I have zero problem saying what I agree with and don't, whether it makes left's hate me... Or Rights hate me. I'll never vote again in my life because there's no point, I'm sick of the left and I'm sick of the right, and I wouldn't be proud to label myself as either, so why support either one?


And for the record... I was against rosanne being fired, I actually used to watch the show... Then stopped after they fired her.

Did she say something that could be taken as racist? Sure, but again .. she's a comedian, comedians are supposed to push people to the edge of uncomfortableness and turn it into a laugh.

As for Carlson or the others, I didn't even follow them so I'm not sure why they were fired. If it was for something they said, I'm sure unless it was something extremely crazy that hurt Fox's branding, if be against it.

 

[JustynaM]

I publicly posted on this forum how i felt about trans athletes, if someone wants to "cancel" me... So be it. Now how would you feel if your boss (I know you don't have one, but if you did) read your comment and fired you because of what you just said? Or if a political appointment pushed for you to be fired because of it?

Cancel culture all around is bad, on the left side and on the right side... And everywhere in-between. But just because one side has prominently been doing it... Doesn't mean it's ok for the other to start as well.

If the right wants to inspire to be snowflakes and push for people to get fired because they don't like what someone said... It makes you no better than the thing you hate.

Not directing this part at you, it's more general - Kimmel only said that the moment Kirk was shot, mega was saying it was radical left's who did it... Then it came out that the guys family is republican, he was raised as Republican, etc. He didn't diss kirk... Didn't say Kirk deserved It.... He actually came out saying he's praying for Kirk's family, when a lot of people were raging over anyone who sympathized with Kirk. I could maybe see why he'd get fired if he said or acted anyway against Kirk, but he didn't..

Then hours after he's fired... Trump calls for 2 other hosts who are anti-relublican to also be fired, and says he may start pulling broadcasting licenses from stations that are "against me"

I don't get how anyone can spin that as not being censorship at it's worst. Even if you don't like the networks, imagine if a democrat threatened all Republican leaning news stations. Free speech is important, with no free speech youre just hearing 1 viewpoint... People are, or should be able to express their thoughts and opinions without fear of being retaliated against, whether it's trans issues, political issues, or anything inbetween.

Again.. if you just straight out said trans people are gross and they should go get lethal injections, thats a little different. And if someone said Charlie Kirk was pro gun, so they're glad he died by a gun and its "worth it", thats also different.


We live in a society that has 10,000 tv channels, if you don't like what someone is saying or doing, watch something else. The freedom to say and express how you feel is something America's always had right - and Republicans historically have always been very pro free speech, it's one thing I liked about them and hated about the left.... Canceling a matte rife for making a domestic abuse joke, or Dave chappel over a transgender joke, people need to lighten up and stop being such snowflakes.

You guys going to get Russian media

 

[Geneva Olson]

I publicly posted on this forum how i felt about trans athletes, if someone wants to "cancel" me... So be it. Now how would you feel if your boss (I know you don't have one, but if you did) read your comment and fired you because of what you just said? Or if a political appointment pushed for you to be fired because of it?

Cancel culture all around is bad, on the left side and on the right side... And everywhere in-between. But just because one side has prominently been doing it... Doesn't mean it's ok for the other to start as well.

If the right wants to inspire to be snowflakes and push for people to get fired because they don't like what someone said... It makes you no better than the thing you hate.

Not directing this part at you, it's more general - Kimmel only said that the moment Kirk was shot, mega was saying it was radical left's who did it... Then it came out that the guys family is republican, he was raised as Republican, etc. He didn't diss kirk... Didn't say Kirk deserved It.... He actually came out saying he's praying for Kirk's family, when a lot of people were raging over anyone who sympathized with Kirk. I could maybe see why he'd get fired if he said or acted anyway against Kirk, but he didn't..

Then hours after he's fired... Trump calls for 2 other hosts who are anti-relublican to also be fired, and says he may start pulling broadcasting licenses from stations that are "against me"

I don't get how anyone can spin that as not being censorship at it's worst. Even if you don't like the networks, imagine if a democrat threatened all Republican leaning news stations. Free speech is important, with no free speech youre just hearing 1 viewpoint... People are, or should be able to express their thoughts and opinions without fear of being retaliated against, whether it's trans issues, political issues, or anything inbetween.

Again.. if you just straight out said trans people are gross and they should go get lethal injections, thats a little different. And if someone said Charlie Kirk was pro gun, so they're glad he died by a gun and its "worth it", thats also different.


We live in a society that has 10,000 tv channels, if you don't like what someone is saying or doing, watch something else. The freedom to say and express how you feel is something America's always had right - and Republicans historically have always been very pro free speech, it's one thing I liked about them and hated about the left.... Canceling a matte rife for making a domestic abuse joke, or Dave chappel over a transgender joke, people need to lighten up and stop being such snowflakes.

I think you're confused on a couple of things:
1 - Jimmy Kimmel's show was canceled indefinitely because of the divisiveness. not because of anything derogatory toward charlie kirk OR TRUMP.
2 - Trump hasn't called for anyone to be fired because they are "against me". Could you find a source for that one?
3 - I brought up the "trans" movement on purpose. I have gotten kicked off of platforms for arguing against the trans movement. I've been called a homophobe, transphobe and bigot all because I said transgenderism is a mental health disorder. According to the DSM V, gender dysphoria is mental health issue.
So my point to bringing this up is because over the past 10-15 years, we've seen an influx of transgenderism. And people accept it. There's a narrative being pushed about transgenderism and if someone even breathes or questions transgenderism, they are censored.
I also know where this transgender narrative came from because I was a teacher. AND I was also a whistleblower. (of course I was). You asked me to imagine my boss reading this comment. I had that happen to me MANY times. And I stood strong and fought the whole way through it.
I emailed the superintendent many times regarding issues happening in my school. The administrators couldn't do anything to me. So, I got moved to a different department. I had the highest test scores in the math department. They moved me to Texas History (yea we teach texas history here). Guess what I did, I started teaching the constitution. Guess who got moved again...

I'd like to challenge you to post where Trump has said ANYTHING to get people fired from their jobs. Jimmy Kimmel didn't get let go because of trump. He got let go because of the FCC.
Stephen Colbert didn't get let go because of Trump. He got let go because of his ratings.

I cannot agree with you that any republican is acting like a snowflake.
What many people are asking is for the divisiveness to stop. You want to rejoice in charlie kirks death, that's on you. You want to blame maga for it? that's not ok. dont lie about his shooter...stick to facts. the facts are..it wasn't a maga who shot him.

 

[Black Star Signs]

I think you're confused on a couple of things:
1 - Jimmy Kimmel's show was canceled indefinitely because of the divisiveness. not because of anything derogatory toward charlie kirk OR TRUMP.
2 - Trump hasn't called for anyone to be fired because they are "against me". Could you find a source for that one?
3 - I brought up the "trans" movement on purpose. I have gotten kicked off of platforms for arguing against the trans movement. I've been called a homophobe, transphobe and bigot all because I said transgenderism is a mental health disorder. According to the DSM V, gender dysphoria is mental health issue.
So my point to bringing this up is because over the past 10-15 years, we've seen an influx of transgenderism. And people accept it. There's a narrative being pushed about transgenderism and if someone even breathes or questions transgenderism, they are censored.
I also know where this transgender narrative came from because I was a teacher. AND I was also a whistleblower. (of course I was). You asked me to imagine my boss reading this comment. I had that happen to me MANY times. And I stood strong and fought the whole way through it.
I emailed the superintendent many times regarding issues happening in my school. The administrators couldn't do anything to me. So, I got moved to a different department. I had the highest test scores in the math department. They moved me to Texas History (yea we teach texas history here). Guess what I did, I started teaching the constitution. Guess who got moved again...

I'd like to challenge you to post where Trump has said ANYTHING to get people fired from their jobs. Jimmy Kimmel didn't get let go because of trump. He got let go because of the FCC.
Stephen Colbert didn't get let go because of Trump. He got let go because of his ratings.

I cannot agree with you that any republican is acting like a snowflake.
What many people are asking is for the divisiveness to stop. You want to rejoice in charlie kirks death, that's on you. You want to blame maga for it? that's not ok. dont lie about his shooter...stick to facts. the facts are..it wasn't a maga who shot him.

The one big detail that isn't being discussed is that there are FCC regulations. How often do you hear the "F" word on ABC, NBC, CBS, etc...?

FCC regulations prohibit news distortion or a hoax.
The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a crime or catastrophe violates the FCC’s rules if:

• The station licensee knew that the information was false;
• Broadcasting the false information directly causes substantial public harm; and
• It was foreseeable that broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.

What possible reason would Kimmel have to say that Charlie's murdered was MAGA after knowing damn well that it wasn't true? Kimmel has stated his opinion many times on things that make me sick but this was different. The FCC had every right to go after Kimmel for this.

 

[JustynaM]

Trump Threatens Licenses of TV Stations That Criticize Him

“When you have a network and you have evening shows, and all they do is hit Trump,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Thursday. The president’s comments came as he defended ABC’s decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s show indefinitely over the late-night host’s remarks about the death...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

 

[GAC05]

I miss the good old days when we worried about important issues, like "How racist are these jeans"?

 

[MP Custom]

Here is your women's olympic boxing champion, good job.
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OK. Now all you care about is other people's genitals.
Definitely a MAGA supporter. Why do you people think about other people's genitals so much?

 

[MP Custom]

That is a drop in the bucket compared to the cost of all the illegal invaders that are being processed out of the USA through Alligator Alcatraz. That facility is paying for itself hand over fist.

Here is a very modest cost from 2023. This doesn't even include so many other expenses that illegal immigration causes to our court system, welfare handouts, schools, housing inflation, general inflation, insurance costs (car crashes, etc), and so many other factors.

State	Taxpayer Cost per Immigrant 2023	Taxpayer Burden of Illegal Immigrants (Adults) 2023	Taxpayer Burden of Illegal Immigrants (Adults and Children) 2023
California	$7,074	$22.82 Bn	$30.94 Bn
Texas	$4,466	$9.94 Bn	$13.36 Bn
Florida	$5,040	$5.97 Bn	$8.04 Bn
New York	$6,846	$7.40 Bn	$9.95 Bn
New Jersey	$5,625	$3.92 Bn	$5.27 Bn
Illinois	$4,636	$2.91 Bn	$3.92 Bn
Georgia	$4,386	$2.25 Bn	$3.04 Bn
North Carolina	$4,781	$2.33 Bn	$3.14 Bn
Arizona	$5,230	$2.37 Bn	$3.19 Bn
Virginia	$5,038	$2.11 Bn	$2.84 Bn
Maryland	$6,123	$2.14 Bn	$2.88 Bn
Washington	$5,630	$1.95 Bn	$2.62 Bn
Nevada	$5,028	$1.47 Bn	$1.99 Bn
Massachusetts	$7,396	$2.16 Bn	$2.91 Bn
Colorado	$5,191	$1.44 Bn	$1.94 Bn
Pennsylvania	$4,845	$1.22 Bn	$1.64 Bn
Michigan	$4,525	$837.06 Mn	$1.12 Bn
Oregon	$6,030	$1.09 Bn	$1.47 Bn
Connecticut	$5,694	$950.90 Mn	$1.28 Bn
Tennessee	$4,456	$721.80 Mn	$971.31 Mn
Indiana	$4,451	$685.39 Mn	$921.28 Mn
Minnesota	$4,692	$656.93 Mn	$877.48 Mn
Utah	$5,033	$689.50 Mn	$931.08 Mn
Oklahoma	$4,278	$581.80 Mn	$782.86 Mn
Ohio	$4,411	$582.27 Mn	$785.18 Mn
New Mexico	$4,628	$550.76 Mn	$740.52 Mn
South Carolina	$4,752	$555.94 Mn	$746.00 Mn
Wisconsin	$4,633	$514.28 Mn	$694.98 Mn
Kansas	$4,308	$447.98 Mn	$603.05 Mn
Arkansas	$4,475	$434.10 Mn	$586.26 Mn
Louisiana	$4,613	$447.50 Mn	$604.36 Mn
Alabama	$4,298	$391.09 Mn	$524.31 Mn
Missouri	$4,446	$342.32 Mn	$462.35 Mn
Kentucky	$4,579	$315.94 Mn	$430.42 Mn
Hawaii	$9,178	$578.18 Mn	$770.91 Mn
Idaho	$4,880	$302.55 Mn	$405.03 Mn
Nebraska	$4,495	$251.72 Mn	$337.13 Mn
Iowa	$4,352	$239.36 Mn	$322.04 Mn
Rhode Island	$5,487	$230.45 Mn	$312.75 Mn
District of Columbia	$7,569	$287.62 Mn	$386.02 Mn
Delaware	$5,201	$182.02 Mn	$244.43 Mn
Mississippi	$4,169	$141.76 Mn	$187.62 Mn
Alaska	$6,192	$92.89 Mn	$130.04 Mn
New Hampshire	$5,659	$79.23 Mn	$107.53 Mn
Maine	$5,650	$67.80 Mn	$90.39 Mn
Vermont	$5,743	$57.43 Mn	$74.66 Mn
South Dakota	$4,742	$42.68 Mn	$56.90 Mn
Montana	$5,196	$36.16 Mn	$45.20 Mn
Wyoming	$4,520	$41.57 Mn	$51.96 Mn
North Dakota	$4,806	$28.84 Mn	$43.25 Mn
West Virginia	$4,431	$26.59 Mn	$39.88 Mn

How does an illegal immigrant get welfare?

 

[MP Custom]

That is hilarious. So the new lefty argument is that since they are losing the argument it is a bot... wow...

Lol. You think yelling louder is winning!! That is hilarious

 

[MP Custom]

The best human response to that is "You are retarded"

Ooh. I don't have anything interesting to say, so I'll just call you names.
Twat.

 

[MP Custom]

Trump Threatens Licenses of TV Stations That Criticize Him

“When you have a network and you have evening shows, and all they do is hit Trump,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Thursday. The president’s comments came as he defended ABC’s decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel’s show indefinitely over the late-night host’s remarks about the death...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

You guys are doomed. I'd rather be locked up in a quarantine centre in Australia than live in a facist country

 

[MP Custom]

I follow current events. And this thread has opened my eyes a little.
My take is that the people in charge of America, are using hate to divide and conquer.
But that's all they have. Once they have got rid of the lefties, the gays, the trans, the Blacks, the latinos, they will need a new group to hate. Could it be people without beards? Could it be women? (Actually I think you guys are well down that path). It won't ever stop .Hate is a fire that needs constant food.
There is NOTHING Christian about a single thing America is doing.
I'm an Atheist, but I am more bloody christ like than half of America.
It was a good experiment. But it failed.

 

[Geneva Olson]

The FCC chair Brenden Carr literally said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way." the same day his show was suspended. Don't pretend like this wasn't some "Would be an awful shame if your business were to burn to the ground" mafia-type shit.

BECAUSE JIMMY KIMMEL LIED. It wasn't because of "free speech". Jimmy Kimmel lied and made a mockery out of an assassination and a relationship between Trump and Kirk. If you weren't aware, Jimmy Kimmel committed defamation. They HAD to get rid of him and ABC AND Jimmy Kimmel could now face a defamation lawsuit.
Did you HEAR what Jimmy Kimmel said or did you READ the TRANSCRIPT?

 

[Geneva Olson]

The one big detail that isn't being discussed is that there are FCC regulations. How often do you hear the "F" word on ABC, NBC, CBS, etc...?

FCC regulations prohibit news distortion or a hoax.
The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a crime or catastrophe violates the FCC’s rules if:

• The station licensee knew that the information was false;
• Broadcasting the false information directly causes substantial public harm; and
• It was foreseeable that broadcasting the false information would cause such harm.

What possible reason would Kimmel have to say that Charlie's murdered was MAGA after knowing damn well that it wasn't true? Kimmel has stated his opinion many times on things that make me sick but this was different. The FCC had every right to go after Kimmel for this.

Yea. I read the transcript last night. jimmy Kimmel defamed Kirk and Trump

 

[XtremeXccessories]

BECAUSE JIMMY KIMMEL LIED. It wasn't because of "free speech". Jimmy Kimmel lied and made a mockery out of an assassination and a relationship between Trump and Kirk. If you weren't aware, Jimmy Kimmel committed defamation. They HAD to get rid of him and ABC AND Jimmy Kimmel could now face a defamation lawsuit.
Did you HEAR what Jimmy Kimmel said or did you READ the TRANSCRIPT?

I've both watched it and read it. Defamation? In your previous post you said his show was canceled "because of the divisiveness. not because of anything derogatory toward charlie kirk OR TRUMP." But now he's defamed both of them? Which is it? Not even Trump is claiming defamation, and he'd be the first to cry about it.

As to another question in your post, Trump has threatened to have networks licenses pulled because he "read somewhere" that 97% of his coverage is negative. I "read somewhere" that Trump has to wear diapers because of his benzo addiction, does that mean it's true?

 

[ikarasu]

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That is a stupid way to define cancel culture. Were you okay that Gina Carano got removed from mandalorian because of a tweet she said? How is that not considered her being canceled?

You got 50% of America that are left in 50% of America that are right. A ton of people find guns offensive, should they get removed off the streets? A ton of people find abortion offensive, should that also just get canceled no matter what?

Cancel culture is people canceling something because they don't agree with whatever is being canceled, people aren't adults anymore and can't accept that other people have different feelings from them so if somebody says or does something they don't agree with rather than ignoring them and moving on they call for them to be canceled.... That is what cancel culture is, the problem isn't the people being canceled whether they're on the left side or the right side the problem is people having the emotional capacity of a 5 year old and wanting everything they do not agree with to just go away.

 

[guillermo]

Well I for surely have benefited from the sign discussions. Tell you what, I'll start posting sign discussion stuff too, I have a lot of knowledge about that subject. And hey, if you ever need any design work I can help you with that, there is no project too big or small.

You are missing a "," after Well
What about the formatting?

 

[Geneva Olson]

I've both watched it and read it. Defamation? In your previous post you said his show was canceled "because of the divisiveness. not because of anything derogatory toward charlie kirk OR TRUMP." But now he's defamed both of them? Which is it? Not even Trump is claiming defamation, and he'd be the first to cry about it.

As to another question in your post, Trump has threatened to have networks licenses pulled because he "read somewhere" that 97% of his coverage is negative. I "read somewhere" that Trump has to wear diapers because of his benzo addiction, does that mean it's true?

buddy, the statements about defamation and divisiveness can both be true. AND they are. I read the transcript last night after I posted this. Sure enough, it's defamation. He took Trumps quotes and rearranged them to make it sound like all Trump cared about was the ballroom. AND Blaming maga is the divisiveness.

BTW: defamation IS divisive