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US Tariffs, Sigh!

MikePro

Active Member
The right to shoot children in schools? The right to be pulled over and shot?
The right to be bundled up in an unmarked car by masked armed men?
You friggin bet we did.
be more retarded.
nobody has the right to murder.
nobody has the right to invade their neighboring country.
nobody takes australia serious on anything ...especially after people died in their covid concentration camps.
 

Texas_Signmaker

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I was in Japan last week and a lot of Australians visit there. One thing I can say is your accent is worse than the Japanese trying to speaka Engrish. I couldn't understand shit those Australians were trying to say.
 
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This is currently being ironed out.. I presume you are talking about the 14th amendment which was intended to protect newly freed slaves, not illegal invaders who come into the USA illegally breaking our laws.

  • Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886): Ruled that the Equal Protection Clause protects non-citizens (in this case, Chinese immigrants) from discriminatory state laws.
  • Plyler v. Doe (1982): Held that illegal immigrant children are entitled to public education because the Equal Protection Clause covers all persons in a state’s jurisdiction.
The issues that this is causing:
  • States and local governments bear much of the cost of services like schools, hospitals, and policing.
  • When large numbers of illegal immigrants invade, these systems can become strained.
  • Legal residents and citizens may feel resources are diverted away from them — which fuels political and social tension.

  • Many state and local attempts to restrict services to illegal immigrants run into conflict with Supreme Court precedent (Plyler v. Doe, 1982).
  • Lawsuits are filed, often resulting in injunctions, which keeps courts tied up.
  • Until the Supreme Court revisits Plyler or Congress changes federal immigration law, states have limited options.

Federal immigration enforcement and asylum law are also under pressure because of the damaging effect this has had on our judicial system, hospitals, schools, public services, and society.
  • Constitutional side: The 14th Amendment says protections apply to any person in U.S. jurisdiction. Courts have interpreted this to include illegal immigrants.
  • Policy side: Many Americans worry that this incentivizes illegal immigration, strains public services, and creates unfair burdens on citizens.
Until Plyler v. Doe is overturned (or Congress redefines federal law), states remain bound to provide certain basic rights and services to illegal immigrants, even if that creates serious issues.
That's a lot of words to say I'm right.
 

JamesLam

New Member
Criminals still have guns and now there is no way for you to defend yourself against them. Only you can call the police who will be there in an hour while you are robbed, raped, and murdered. Notice how it is always criminals doing crime.
They should have been nicer to Crocodile Dundee and maybe he would not have moved to the US.
 
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MP Custom

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Mind you, this guy is an australian talking who has no rights to own a gun so he is at the absolute beckencall of his government.
Yeah, we are so scared. We actually have a working democracy.
And please, you people have all the guns, yet you still allow the government to do whatever it wants. I didn't see an armed uprising when the republicans were so terrified that a trans person might play a sport.
Or armed mobs overthrowing the government.
And do you honestly thing the proud boys and the gravy seals are a match for an army ?
Pointless posturing.
But hey, it's nice to not have active shooter drills in our schools.
 
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MP Custom

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You honestly have no clue do you?
How many Americans died from covid? Look at our numbers.
and guess what? It's now being used for emergency shelter during floods and fires.



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This worked out well for you.
 

MP Custom

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be more retarded.
nobody has the right to murder.
nobody has the right to invade their neighboring country.
nobody takes australia serious on anything ...especially after people died in their covid concentration camps.
Um, we didn't have mass graves, you guys did.
 

MP Custom

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Criminals still have guns and now there is no way for you to defend yourself against them. Only you can call the police who will be there in an hour while you are robbed, raped, and murdered. Notice how it is always criminals doing crime.
OK. How many "Good guys with guns" have stopped "bad guys with guns" in the USA?
If everyone can defend themselves, why are so many killed?
Why is gunshot wounds the #1 cause of death for children in America?
When ours is just injuries from our kids being kids,
 
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Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
I'm not convinced Luser23434 is a real member/person/human. I think it's a bot account that hacked a dormant account. We've seen it on this forum countless times.

At this point it's like arguing with a machine. But in this case you're training the bot how to argue.
 
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MP Custom

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A proposal.

American Earnings Freedom & National Tariff Act (AEFNTA)
“You pay when you buy, not when you earn.”



Phase-Out of Income and Payroll Taxation


Reform AreaDetails
Immediate Income Tax Elimination (Under $65K)All individuals earning $65,000/year or less pay no federal income tax, effective immediately.
Phase-Out for Higher EarnersGradual phase-out of federal income taxes over 5–7 years for incomes above $65K, prioritizing middle-income earners first.
Constitutional SafeguardPropose amendment to permanently ban wage-based federal income taxation on U.S. citizens.



Tariff Structure to Replace Federal Revenue


OptionAverage Tariff RateRevenue Balance Approach
Option A: Full Replacement20–25%Replaces income/payroll taxes fully through tariffs alone.
Option B: Balanced15–20%Tariffs + reduced spending + modest consumption tax.
Option C: Lean Government5–10%Deep spending cuts + limited backup tax (e.g. sales tax or capital tax).





Luxury Item Tax (LICT)


FeatureDetails
Rate10%–35%, tiered based on value.
Applies ToImported or high-end luxury goods (jewelry, watches, yachts, designer items, etc).
ExemptionsEssentials, U.S.-made goods, moderate lifestyle purchases.
Revenue UseDirected toward debt reduction, infrastructure, veterans, and domestic investment.



Federal Spending Reform and Sovereignty Restoration


ReformDetails
End Foreign AidNo more outbound federal money to foreign governments — U.S. tax dollars stay in the U.S.
Eliminate NGO FundingAll NGO funding is cut — halts misuse, laundering, and unaccountable influence networks.
Shrink BureaucracyEliminate redundancy in all federal agencies. Downsize IRS. Audit defense and foreign spending.
Transparency MandateAll federal spending must be publicly viewable and approved by voter-majority referendum for non-domestic allocations.



Domestic Economic Growth & Incentives


InitiativeDetails
Repatriation IncentivesBring corporate profits home tax-free if used for U.S. worker investment, factories, or R&D.
Domestic Rebuild ZonesStrategic grants to rebuild U.S. factories, raw material processing, and supply chains in key sectors.
Anti-Offshoring PenaltiesU.S. companies using foreign labor face reentry tariffs or corporate penalties.
“Made in America” Tax FreedomGoods certified as 100% U.S.-made are exempt from all federal sales taxes or tariffs.



Morally-Driven Free Market Principles


ValueManifestation
Work is SacredNo tax on your labor — the reward of your work is yours.
Poverty Trap RemovedNo benefit cliffs. No punishment for upward mobility.
Citizens FirstNo more taxing American citizens to fund foreign regimes.
Wealth OptionalityIf you live simply, you pay little. If you buy big, you contribute more.
Reinvestment over RedistributionCapital stays here — in jobs, factories, infrastructure. Not overseas.


Summary of Core Principles​


ValueAEFNTA Delivers
FreedomEnd of forced wage taxation. You keep what you earn.
FairnessNo one is punished for success or trapped in poverty.
SovereigntyNo more foreign payouts. U.S. money stays in the U.S.
SecurityStrong domestic industry, strong working class, strong border.
TransparencyEvery dollar taxed and spent is visible to the public.
Well, now that there are only 40 million of you, you won't need to import as much.
You all can choose what abandoned home to live in, and! Less traffic!
Hope the ones that survived has a few people who know how to keep the lights on.


 
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Texas_Signmaker

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I agree with the turtle riding redhead. What's with the new accounts with low post numbers going on and on in the political threads? Plants is what I suspect.
 
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ikarasu

Premium Subscriber
I'm not convinced Luser23434 is a real member/person/human. I think it's a bot account that hacked a dormant account. We've seen it on this forum countless times.

At this point it's like arguing with a machine. But in this case you're training the bot how to argue.
The posts seem very ai / botish, but I ran them through a tester and it came up as not ai....that being said they're getting good at avoiding detection now.

Doesn't mean it's not a bot, and it's very odd a user account of 4 years who never liked or posted a comment became active on Aug 30th and already posted dozens of posts and liked a dozen comments .. And only in the tariff threads.

It'd be interesting if the admin can check his login history, see if hes been quiet and active for years or just all if a sudden appeared from nowhere, which would suggest he's a bot.
 

Geneva Olson

Expert Storyteller
The posts seem very ai / botish, but I ran them through a tester and it came up as not ai....that being said they're getting good at avoiding detection now.

Doesn't mean it's not a bot, and it's very odd a user account of 4 years who never liked or posted a comment became active on Aug 30th and already posted dozens of posts and liked a dozen comments .. And only in the tariff threads.

It'd be interesting if the admin can check his login history, see if hes been quiet and active for years or just all if a sudden appeared from nowhere, which would suggest he's a bot.
Its very strange the way "he" posts. Yea, this thread has been a pretty heated topic. I think you and Boudica are probably right. Like perhaps the "bots" or even other countries are searching for these types of conversations. I tend to forget that this is an "open" forum and everyone can see these threads.
 
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Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
That is hilarious. So the new lefty argument is that since they are losing the argument it is a bot... wow...
I'm using that argument and I'm not right or left...

It seems when someone is far one side or the other it's all the same... Intelligence gets lower the further you are to the edge.
 
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